Ashok Leyland to double capacity within three years
Published on Thu, May 08, 2008 at 16:52 , Updated at Fri, May 09, 2008 at 12:17
Source : CNBC
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R Seshasayee, MD, Ashok Leyland, said the company plans to double its current capacity of 84,000 vehicles per annum within three years.
Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with R Seshasayee: Q: Could you walk us through this quarter in terms of the kind of realisations growth you have clocked because numbers both on the topline and bottomline are ahead of what the Street was expecting? A: There is a marginal growth, albeit at about 5.5%, in bottomline as compared to the same quarter last year. This quarter was marked by high input cost, part of which we neutralized by some pricing action. Also, what helped was some additional sales that they made in the spare parts market and defence packs, which helped us to improve our operating margins. So, we ended up the whole year with about 10.4%, which is an improvement over the previous year. Hence, the quarter showed some improvement. Q: Given the YoY volume growth of about 4.5%, what has been the realisations traction that you have experienced this quarter around in Q4? A: In Q4, we were excepting a reasonable amount of price increase that we pushed through. Particularly in the last month of the quarter, we were able to keep at bay some commodity price increases, some of which are going to get realised this quarter. Overall, we have managed the quarter at both ends of the fork by pushing up prices and keeping down cost of raw materials and by increasing volumes. Q: But is that scenario here to stay, given that the striking feature this quarter around was the fact that you held margins at around the 11.5% mark on a YoY basis. Going forward, given the kind of concerns that are there on the raw materials side, how are you looking at margins for FY09? A: It is difficult to say because I don’t know if steel prices can remain at this current level. I would like to think that in the second half we must see some lowering of steel prices consequent to the overall global slowdown. If that happens, I have no reason to believe that we cannot hold or improve over last year’s margins. But there are two very uncertain situations. One is the behaviour of the commodity market and the kind of profit maximization impulses that you have on that side on one hand and growth of commercial vehicle industry consequent to issues relating to fund availability and interest rate. We are in a bit uncertain times just now. We should look for high single digit growth and operating margins could be around last year’s, provided that the input costs soften towards the second half.
Q: The other aspect that you touched upon is key for other sectors. How will rates shape up in FY09, what is the kind of estimates that you are working with, given the current interest rate scenario? What’s the kind of projection that you are making in terms of volume growth for FY09 and FY10? A: The one issue that is going to be quite critical in the current year is just the availability of truck financing and that is not related much to interest rates alone. The fact that some of these large institutions are probably going to go a bit slow on this financing is because of several issues relating to recovery and so on. I don’t see major panic, and don’t see a very tight situation. I am just wanting to look at the potential, which could threaten. Otherwise, there is good growth possibility because freight is available. There are no operators who are complaining of the lack of freight, the turnaround time is good, the economy and manufacturing sector is bound to grow, so there are mixed signals. How they play out is something which we need to watch out. I would say that this is not an year where the arrow is going north or south, somewhere in between is what we need to watch out. Q: Does it stay above 10% FY09, and about 9% FY10? Would those estimates work well for volume growth?
A: A high single digit growth is what we are expecting in the current year.
Q: The other aspect that you also highlighted in numbers is the fact that interest cost has come off quite considerably. What is the debt currently standing in the books of Ashok Leyland? In FY09, how much of interest cost pressure can we expect to impact the bottom-line?
A: Firstly, we are in the midst of creating fairly large capacities. We are adding this new plant in Uttarakhand for 50,000 vehicles and we are not cutting down on capacity creation. Therefore, capital expenditure is in full stream. This year, they would probably have a borrowing of about Rs 900-950 crore and certainly interest on that would have certain impact. We are able to control our capital expenditure. To prove our internal generation, this number might come down quite significantly and interest costs will be larger than last year. In the current year, this is part of the capacity creation which will have to be paid off in the coming years.
Q: Were there any mark-to-market losses on ECB that you have right now on your books, about USD 250 million this quarter around?
Q: In terms of the capex that you have laid out for FY09, we came to understand that it is about Rs 1,600 crore in total. Is that a fair number or are you going to be looking at investing more in FY09 and FY10?
A: No. Rs 1,600 crore is quite a large amount for us to push through in the current year, considering that we are not in a very high growth year. But at the same time, we need to create capacity, so I don’t expect that to go outside or more than this number. If anything, then it could probably be lower than this number. |
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