Buy cos with strong biz models: HSBC Pvt Banking
Published on Fri, Jul 18 at 16:33 , Updated at Mon, Jul 21 at 09:07
Source : CNBC-TV18
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He feels long-term investors should start buying fundamentally strong business models that are not too highly leveraged. "In this price erosion, there are pockets where there is value. It is in various sectors and not just in certain sectors. Investors should stay in companies where there is a fundamentally long business models that are not too highly leveraged. We are advising our clients to look at equities as a long-term investment and wealth builder. When you start to see the markets trading at reasonable to cheap valuations, that’s when you need to start picking up."
He expects the repo rate to rise up by another 100 bps before the end of the year and sees CRR tightening by another 100 bps. Q: What would you put it down to the relief of the last couple of days? A: We had a couple of days of rally. The last couple of times it was basally gloom and doom. We are seeing some amount of value buying. But with oil having come off from USD 145-147 per barrel down to USD 130 per barrel, it is some amount of sentiment relief for the market. There are concerns be it global or domestic which still loom very large. It is good to see some kind of relief rally whether it is from the correction that we have seen from 21,000 or even last month’s run from 17,500 to 12,500-12,600 in a short span of time. So, some amount of that needs to be retraced probably in the midst of bear market rally, but it is good to see some semblance of rally in the midst of all this gloom. Q: The next big catalyst is next week and that’s from the political front, do you think a positive decision of either the government staying in place might help to extend this rally or will it be a bit of a come and go event? A: That is going to be the big trigger for markets. It is very difficult to say and that’s what the market is possibly anticipating at this point of time. The situation on the political front is not something just for the week but for many months to come. It is something that is going to concern the markets, as they don’t like uncertainties. That’s something that we are going to have to live with for the next 6-9 months. The markets are going to take cues from next week’s news and either move up or down. Q: Do you think a lot of people are changing their cash calls on this market right now? Are people beginning to look for buying opportunities or is it too early to take such a decision? A: The markets are trading close to 12.5 times FY09 earnings. That makes India look relatively cheap by historical standards, or peg ratio vis-à-vis many other emerging markets. On a relative basis, when compared to other emerging markets, it might look a little bit more expensive. But when you compare it on a PEG ratio, we are cheaper than most other emerging markets. For a long-term investor, below 13 times or even at 13.5 times are levels where one should be looking at starting to pick up some amount of quality stocks. In this price erosion, there are pockets where there is value. It is in various sectors and not just in certain sectors. One has to be prudent about staying out of over leveraged stocks and companies. Investors should stay in companies where there is a fundamentally strong business models that are not too highly leveraged. From an overall perspective, if you look at Indian corporates, we are in a much better situation than many other economies, where leverage positions are much higher. From that perspective, one hopes there is some amount of value buying. We are advising our clients to look at equities as a long-term investment and wealth builder. When you start to see the markets trading at reasonable to cheap valuations, that’s when you need to start picking up.
Mutual funds are still sitting on pretty significant amounts of cash, which ranges from 10% to 20%. So, some of that has been coming back to the markets in the last couple of days.
Q: How would you approach the entire financial space right now? A: We are still underweight on financials as a sector. The price erosion has been dramatic. But when you look at concerns looming be it with inflation as high as it is at 11.91%, our view is that we should continue to see Monetary tightening. We could possibly see the repo rate rise up by another 100 bps before the end of the year and possibly more tightening with CRR to the extent of another 100 bps. There are concerns with regards to the bond portfolio of banks, rising non-performing assets levels, and net interest margins coming down. So, there are some concerns on the financial sector and banks. That is one sector where we remain underweight on in present conditions. Q: How would you approach real estate or infrastructure now? A: From a long-term perspective, infrastructure is space which should continue to do well as that’s the biggest need of our country. If one looks at the order book of infrastructure and if one puts capital goods and industrials in that space, one would continue to see good traction with regards to order book. But they are also interest rate sensitive, so if there is a concern on interest rates moving up during the course of this year, then they will continue to underperform. The kind of price erosion that we have seen is significant in interest rate sensitives be it financials, real estate, infrastructure, and industrials as well. So, there are definitely pockets of opportunities there. It is important to look at companies with good solid business models and not too highly leveraged. That’s the important thing. This is where one could hide for the next 6-12 months. But there are concerns with some of the real estate companies. The cost of borrowing for some of these companies has really shot-up, so there are near-term concerns. That’s a sector that would probably continue to underperform. For the next few months, interest rate sensitives should continue to remain under pressure. Q: How do you gauge the situation right now for technology and do you think this whole process of extrapolating and getting a clear handle of earnings getting skewed because of what happened with the currency over the past two quarters? A: The big 3-4 companies have reported their numbers and all are pointing to some kind of cautious optimism on earnings for the next quarter at least. With the rupee having weakened more than 7-8% during this quarter, it becomes uncertain with regards to what kind of guidance one would see for the year ahead. This is one sector which to some extent is isolated to interest rate hikes. If you look at commodity prices as well, its not going to impact the service industry. So, that’s one sector which we have recently gone overweight on because we believe that the story from a long-term perspective still remains very strong contender. This business has grown significantly in the last 10 years. We believe that a reasonably strong growth rate should continue for the next 3-5 years. Q: There is possibly a political problem, not immediately, but maybe in March when a new government comes in that it could be hung Parliament like we saw in 1999. The ill effects of a series of rate hikes could come in around that time and not everyone believes that the worst is over in US financial markets as well. Given all these, are you a buyer or are you advising your clients to go ahead and buy at current lows? Do you think you will get plenty of opportunities in 2009? A: We have asked our clients to look at equities from a long-term perspective. From that perspective, the long-term India story hasn’t gone anywhere. We are still an economy that believes we will grow 7.5% this year as far as GDP is concerned. But the impact of rate hikes is going to start to play out in the third or fourth quarter or possibly in the first few quarters of the following financial year. However, the risk is that there could be earnings downgrade going forward. So, we could see politics, further rate hikes, and inflation playing on the minds of investors. So, there are going to be further opportunities. We have asked our clients to enter in a phase manner. Disclosure: It is safe to assume that my clients and I may have an investment interest in the stocks or sectors discussed. |
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