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Expect RBI to raise policy rates soon: IGIDR

Published on Fri, Jul 04 at 13:37 , Updated at Sat, Jul 05 at 12:23
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Ashima Goyal, Professor of Economics at IGIDR and member at many RBI Committees, expects RBI to raise policy rates. “The policymakers will hold off from a sharp rise in rates because in the past we have seen there has been a sudden response to such a shock. It had a very high output cost because we are at a precarious level in terms of growth.” 

 

She does not see a serious skid off in growth from the 8% levels.

 

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with Ashima Goyal:

 

Q: How would RBI be reacting? What kind of worse inflation numbers will it be prepared for, and what will be its policy actions?

 

A: At present, real interest rates are negative, so there is some scope for raising nominal rates further. This is a short-term surge in inflation. The yield curve is pretty flat at present. There will be worries about inflation expectations setting in. So, expect the central bank to have a graduated response and not sudden moves as that can create a lot of trouble in markets. At the same time, they will strongly signal that they want to keep inflation expectations moderated. This current rise in costs has to be passed on, but a second round increase should not take place. So, the market can expect some rise in policy rates.

 

Q: Are you saying this is a temporary rise in inflation? The Wholesale Price Index’s trajectory from March 1 onwards has seen an average rise of 0.3%. Can it go up to about 16-17%? Would you say it is temporary? Would this not require a very strong dose? If you say it is only inflation expectations, then what will the policy reaction be?

 

A: It is due to cost shock. The high inflation number is due to international oil and food prices and so on. This cost rise is one time because prices are not flexible downwards and it gets pushed through into inflation. So, one won’t see inflation at this level next year and so on. In the past when we had fuel price shocks, inflation had gone up as high as 17-20%, but it has come down after that.

 

In that sense, it is temporary. We are not going to see inflation continuing at 20% per annum. This rate of inflation has only been there for few weeks. When one talks about the real economy and real interest rates, then you talk about annual inflation. Real interest rates are what is relevant for investment decisions, saving, etc.

 

Q: Where do you think nominal interest rates could go? Are you expecting several doses of repo rate hike? At 8.5%, would you say that the overnight curve would start at maybe 9% or 9.5%? For 2008, where do you think RBI might stop at?

 

A: We are in a new sort of world, where there are new options available. Markets anticipate central bank’s action and take signals. The central bank doesn’t have to make a very large change. I do not see a 1% or 0.5% change. They have already raised repo rates by 0.5%. So, the market should pick the signal of short-term nominal rates to rise and factor the same into real rates.

 

The policymakers will hold off from a sharp rise in rates. In the past when we have seen a sudden response to such a shock, it had a very high output cost, because we are at a precarious level in terms of growth.

 

Q: What kind of rate hike will you factor in? What is the impact on growth that you are seeing going forward for this year, next, and subsequent years? Are we going to systematically skid away from the 8.5-9% trajectory and go into a 6-7% trajectory for the next three-years?

 

A: We should give the markets some credit. Markets don’t think this inflation is going to last that long, since liquid long-term rates haven’t risen that much. As long as investment rates remain high, growth is driven more by these long-term determinants. We are fortunate that agriculture has done well this year.

 

For the first inflationary round to be passed on in the Indian economy, what happens to food prices is very important, because that depends on wages rise and so on. We are very lucky that agriculture is doing well. The government has had some systematic kind of measures, which may show up and improve agricultural performance. Indian growth is somewhat robust, because it is driven by a number of factors. When industry or exports don’t do so well, agriculture does better. So, some elements of domestic demand compensate. We are having a series of repeated shocks.

 

Q: Are you therefore saying that you do not see a serious skid off from 8% levels?

 

A: We could do 8% this year, which would be the higher end.

 

Q: What about subsequent years because interest rates normally strike with a lag in countries like ours, which do not have very healthy or robust bond markets? The expectation is that it will start impacting FY010 growth, corporate performance, and demand growth. Do you see the pain getting worse? Would you say that 8% could more or less be maintained with maybe one year of things going a miss?

 

A: We are at a point where large amount of infrastructure investment is required. It’s critical that this investment doesn’t slack off. Real interest rates, which are a matter for investment decisions, are very low. Creditors gain when inflation is high, because what they have to repay in real-terms is much lower. So, there is nominal interest rate effect for bondholders and so on. High inflation actually helps those who are borrowing long-term. There is a need for infrastructure investment. We should see investment continuing and that should keep India’s growth somewhat robust.

 

Q: Your own estimate would be that perhaps 8% will be managed this year. We shouldn’t do too much below 8% in FY010 too? 

 

A: Yes.

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