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16 Oct 2008 23:41

Apple Finance

Posted by : dineshsethiya
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 2.64 ( -6.38 % )
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Any news on the property sale of apple finance. There was a news sometime back that the property of apple finance is going to be auctioned in the first week of Oct....

16 Oct 2008 23:40

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : rms71
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.05 ( -6.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.00 ( -6.54 % )
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you were right in your prediction thanks...

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Posted by : lifaylon

CRR cut by 1% shud bring liquidity of 40000cr into markets Expect another 1.5% CRR cut b4 indian-financial-markets settles-down CIRCUIT shud not happen but can go intra-day 800points can close 450+ points in the Negative

16 Oct 2008 23:37

BSE Announcements on Hindalco

Hindalco

Posted by : sayaba
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 69.75 ( -12.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 68.85 ( -12.79 % )
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I am of the opinion that the share price of this stock will come down to Rs 19+. One, who are interested in this stock can start accumulation at around Rs 24, Rs 22 and Rs 19+. On touching Rs 19+, it will start consolidation at around Rs 22 to Rs 24. Thereafter, it can start onward journey. So, let us see at around above levels first and then start deciding. Thanks....

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BSE Announcements on Hindalco

Posted by : bullish9000

i think it shd settle around 50 odd Rs.

16 Oct 2008 23:32

Reliance Industries may hit 1670-1680: Bose

Reliance

Posted by : vera_anz
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1397.25 ( -8.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 1391.95 ( -8.44 % )
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Reliance touched 52 week low today.more lows to follow......

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Reliance Industries may hit 1670-1680: Bose

Posted by : sanjay38000

reliance ind can touch 1112/- before going to make any upside.

16 Oct 2008 23:27

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : bubbu64
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.05 ( -6.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.00 ( -6.54 % )
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Sriman35

Sorry to butt in but" BACK TO SQUARE ONE" should be read as " BACK TO SCHOOL`. Don`t you agree? in such adverse market circumstances.

My views for sure.

bubbu64...

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Posted by : Sriman35

Hi RN,

Excuse me for the intrusion.

So you are going back to virtual trading (I guess you did this before you begin your actual trading)

So what now.!? Say your paper trading yields +ve returns (which is more likely). Will you resort to actual trading again with the paper confidense gained...!

IF that is the case, I would prefer to term it as back to SQUARE ONE.

Regards,
Sri

16 Oct 2008 23:26

questions for forbes agm tomorrow

Forbes Gokak

Posted by : totha
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 389.15 ( -1.48 % )
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yes SIR, all aside, it has survived the onslaugth like the common man... May be it had no flab, ...

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questions for forbes agm tomorrow

Posted by : teamsr

Dear Nodick
There is no multibagger which does nt lack clarity.If its cleat then its no more a multibagger as it will be in two cases.Either markets discounts them at low pe or everyone knows that it will happen.
On a Lighter Note The former one which takes time makes Multibaggers and the latter leaves Multiple beggars.

Multibaggers are made over a period and not in a matter of months.
My portfolio has survived the downfall thanks to forbes.It has fallen just 10% from my buying price as its book value is near to 330 in terms of reserves.

Regards,
Niftyviews

16 Oct 2008 23:21

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : bubbu64
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.05 ( -6.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.00 ( -6.54 % )
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morningstar

Bang on dot on what I have been trying to tell the boarders here.

I remember property prices in Hyderabad were quoted at Rs 100 one day, at Rs 200 after a month, at Rs 300 the month after and so on. When I talked to a GM of a well known real estate co her reply was so what`s wrong in that. This was in 2006. Now the time has come for these fly by night real estate cos. The owners themselves cannot even speak english in many cases. I know a few CEO`s of some Real estate cos in Bangalore who could speak only in Kannada. I am not against Kannada but yes when in a business like real estate with even NRI`s buyers asking u questions u need to know the business lingo. Ergo I understood immediately what was wrong with the company and so was the case with many others too.

The bitter truth is property prices in India should fall to min even 70 to 80% of their present value to be actually worth buying. Bullshit cos from Pune to Sangli to even small towns like Nagpur suddenly tried to cash in on the IPO boom. Thankfully not many were successful IPO`s partly due to the fact that by that time the mkt crash had almost started and investors were getting smarter. Nevertheless many innocent investors are still stuck with these mere craps of tissue paper. I can see many of these papers getting worthless as toilet paper.

Greed more Greed and even more Greed has in fact lead to this mkt getting a big tip to the bottom.

Frankly from 2006-2007 the mkt frenzy caught up with so many ppl opening demat accounts even in the names of their underaged children. Investors became greedy considering that our middle class had got a raw deal all these years being stuck in the twilight zone neither rich nor poor, and hence crores pumped money in whatever unheard of stock tickers they could find. I remember software engineers working in Infosys, Satyam and many more cos Bangalore parading around in their company T-shirts with their familiar employee dog tags round their necks, showing off by blowing loads of money on booze, new cars, flashy clothes, EXPENSIVE HIGLY PRICED FLATS (thereby giving the developers the much needed boost to greedily double, triple their flat prices), gadgets all purchased beyond their buying ability ALL TAKEN ON LOANS of course. I guess this stock crash is GOD`s way of punishing them. I guess what became a show of happiness to individual prosperity soon turned to maniac madness and now has become their downfall.

Time has now come such people to pay for the sins in the form of a such a brutal stock market crash. I feel bad saying this but its the bitter truth. Apologies if my post has any individual sentiments/ feelings.

bubbu64...

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Posted by : morningstar

Today`s situation reminds of the dotcom bust when the entire world was after the ecommerce and the revolution it would bring in peoples lives. I remember many of my college mates having lucrative jobs in various professions from finance to engg. left their jobs and joined ecommerce courses. IT institutes minted money during this time charging lacs of Rs for a 3 month course in economics. The surviving ones like Aptech and NIIT are the few ones to survive the aftermath, rest most of them faded into oblivion. Teachers who used to teach in these institutes were raw talent who had just graduated from the 3 month course from the same institute. Even the local kelewala and panwala started talking about e commerce and the repercussion it will have on their businesses. Everything was spoken about in ecommerce style like B2B, B2C, and so on and so forth. They had virtually sent the death knell for brick and mortar companies. Web addresses were being bought at fantabulous prices and every other man was keen on setting an ecommerce site.

During the same time, many ecommerce companies were floated and they attracted the best of the talent from the PSUs and other good companies by offering out of the world salaries and commensurate perks. I remember 1000s of the best talent from such companies left and joined these dotcom companies to snatch their pound of flesh. The show lasted for 6 months and the companies started defaulting on salaries. Then it was just a matter of time that the end was coming near and so it happened. Ultimately the greedy lost their original jobs too and were in deep debts and mental agony. Many committed suicide, many joined other companies for lesser remuneration and the entire dotcom bubble burst leaving mayhem and disaster behind. The people who made money were the IT training institutes!!

An entire replica of the above situation is facing the world today but with a different subject that is real estate and stocks. The mania is nearing an end. Those who were smart enough to know that the end was coming near and exited are the lucky ones. Those who hung around with eternal optimism are suffering and the agony is bound to increase as more and more bankruptcies unfold in different sectors.

Any FII or bank for that matter will never agree to the saying that it is under trouble until the time of no return has come thus taking with them innocent investors. I heard the CEO of Lehman was on a flight from Washington to Seattle when he heard that his company had filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy, such is the ferocity and power of downfalls, to build an empire is tough, but for it to fall takes a mere small time!! Now the blame game is on. CEO of Lehman blaming the authorities that they were aware of the things to come by and had not informed him to take corrective action. Just imagine an investment bank as reputed as Lehman 158 year old can fall in a year what you can say of other companies??

After the dotcom bust came the forest/plantation companies all over India. They flourished for sometime. The promoters raked in the moolah and vanished leaving tons of poor investors robbed of their hard earned earnings!!

In my opinion, the next big bust in India will be in the real estate sector after the stock market melt down. Or else how come suddenly in a matter of 2 years the prices doubled and trebled and quadrupuled with unheard of names coming out with IPOs at fancy prices. If people are to be believed in many real estate companies there is already a delay of 3-4 months in disbursement of salaries.

Just imagine under the given circumstances should these conditions improve or worsen. It is your take now and make a judgement!!

So my fellow boarders take care!!

The above is my personal experience and opinion and does not recommend anyone to buy or sell real estate or stocks.

You take your own decision......

Cheers

16 Oct 2008 23:15

Bhel may fall below 1000....

BHEL

Posted by : Sriman35
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1313.00 ( -5.83 % ), NSE: Rs. 1312.70 ( -6.07 % )
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Stocks start tumbling from the past 6 to 9 months. Most of these times it is some what limited to Midcap and small cap. Now is the turn of large caps.

It is a sign market is approching bottom. Expect it by end Dec. (another 10 to 15% downside left).

-Q-
panic selling by investors across the board.
-UQ-
Yes there is panic selling... but they are NOT NORNAL RETAIL INVESTORS. Transactions from ordinary man is drying up very fast.

Regards,
Sri...

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Bhel may fall below 1000....

Posted by : dr.sandip

When bluest of blue chips starts tumbling suddenly and heavily like LnT, BHEL, Reliance, Infosys , this could be due to panic selling by investors across the board. In such conditions do u think that bottom is near from current levels??

Regards.

Sandip

16 Oct 2008 23:12

Please help !

HDFC

Posted by : shareviews
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1801.15 ( 5.17 % ), NSE: Rs. 1804.75 ( 5.54 % )
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Good to diversity your investments a little bit. Options are SBI, BHEL, Larsen, Hind Unilever, NTPC etc. All safe stocks....

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Please help !

Posted by : Guest

I have put most of my savings in HDFC deposits. Do the current market conditions pose a threat to the corporation and am i at risk of loosing my money? what indication should i look out for before i prematurely withdraw my deposits? Do help thanks.

16 Oct 2008 23:10

Next Down Target

Geojit Financia

Posted by : essay08
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.20 ( 9.80 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.45 ( 10.17 % )
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Isnt there an open offer loomimg? Can we re-read SEBI rules on the open offer. Possibly, that will shed some light why the scrip is hitting UC:-)
...

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Next Down Target

Posted by : Guest

why is it in upper circiut for l;ast 2 trading session?

16 Oct 2008 23:05

market worried about forex loss

Biocon

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 125.90 ( -3.27 % ), NSE: Rs. 125.70 ( -3.64 % )
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this is a very badly managed company i feel...when it comes to forex management. the rupee is @ $48 and they are incurring forex losses. hooh. what a company. god save this company.

swamy.
...

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market worried about forex loss

Posted by : goodshare

Savera is right. First quater conference call transcript clearly says that every ruppee depreciation will cost 8 to 10 Cr.

16 Oct 2008 22:55

Renovation of ACC Headquarters.

ACC

Posted by : TrueCompanion
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 522.60 ( -4.05 % ), NSE: Rs. 521.25 ( -4.96 % )
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ACC is likely to save 30% energy costs with a major renovation process. ACC`s corporate head office is being renovated, which is expected to earn a Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (Leeds) certification with the US Green building council. The project has been named as "Orchid" and it is likely to save 30 energy costs of the company. The project is likely to incur an outflow of Rs 20 crore and will be completed by February 2009.

Source : Asian Cerc

/TC/...

16 Oct 2008 22:52

Bhel may fall below 1000....

BHEL

Posted by : dr.sandip
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1313.00 ( -5.83 % ), NSE: Rs. 1312.70 ( -6.07 % )
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When bluest of blue chips starts tumbling suddenly and heavily like LnT, BHEL, Reliance, Infosys , this could be due to panic selling by investors across the board. In such conditions do u think that bottom is near from current levels??

Regards.

Sandip...

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Bhel may fall below 1000....

Posted by : vkk43

I fully agree with your views.

16 Oct 2008 22:51

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : morningstar
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.05 ( -6.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.00 ( -6.54 % )
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Today`s situation reminds of the dotcom bust when the entire world was after the ecommerce and the revolution it would bring in peoples lives. I remember many of my college mates having lucrative jobs in various professions from finance to engg. left their jobs and joined ecommerce courses. IT institutes minted money during this time charging lacs of Rs for a 3 month course in economics. The surviving ones like Aptech and NIIT are the few ones to survive the aftermath, rest most of them faded into oblivion. Teachers who used to teach in these institutes were raw talent who had just graduated from the 3 month course from the same institute. Even the local kelewala and panwala started talking about e commerce and the repercussion it will have on their businesses. Everything was spoken about in ecommerce style like B2B, B2C, and so on and so forth. They had virtually sent the death knell for brick and mortar companies. Web addresses were being bought at fantabulous prices and every other man was keen on setting an ecommerce site.

During the same time, many ecommerce companies were floated and they attracted the best of the talent from the PSUs and other good companies by offering out of the world salaries and commensurate perks. I remember 1000s of the best talent from such companies left and joined these dotcom companies to snatch their pound of flesh. The show lasted for 6 months and the companies started defaulting on salaries. Then it was just a matter of time that the end was coming near and so it happened. Ultimately the greedy lost their original jobs too and were in deep debts and mental agony. Many committed suicide, many joined other companies for lesser remuneration and the entire dotcom bubble burst leaving mayhem and disaster behind. The people who made money were the IT training institutes!!

An entire replica of the above situation is facing the world today but with a different subject that is real estate and stocks. The mania is nearing an end. Those who were smart enough to know that the end was coming near and exited are the lucky ones. Those who hung around with eternal optimism are suffering and the agony is bound to increase as more and more bankruptcies unfold in different sectors.

Any FII or bank for that matter will never agree to the saying that it is under trouble until the time of no return has come thus taking with them innocent investors. I heard the CEO of Lehman was on a flight from Washington to Seattle when he heard that his company had filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy, such is the ferocity and power of downfalls, to build an empire is tough, but for it to fall takes a mere small time!! Now the blame game is on. CEO of Lehman blaming the authorities that they were aware of the things to come by and had not informed him to take corrective action. Just imagine an investment bank as reputed as Lehman 158 year old can fall in a year what you can say of other companies??

After the dotcom bust came the forest/plantation companies all over India. They flourished for sometime. The promoters raked in the moolah and vanished leaving tons of poor investors robbed of their hard earned earnings!!

In my opinion, the next big bust in India will be in the real estate sector after the stock market melt down. Or else how come suddenly in a matter of 2 years the prices doubled and trebled and quadrupuled with unheard of names coming out with IPOs at fancy prices. If people are to be believed in many real estate companies there is already a delay of 3-4 months in disbursement of salaries.

Just imagine under the given circumstances should these conditions improve or worsen. It is your take now and make a judgement!!

So my fellow boarders take care!!

The above is my personal experience and opinion and does not recommend anyone to buy or sell real estate or stocks.

You take your own decision......

Cheers...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : morningstar

Dear athiest, you have forgotten the aviation industry. The biggest layoff perhaps in this history of India has occured with Jet giving pink slips overnight to 800 of its various staff. This is soon to be followed with another 2000 employees including pilots and technicians. This gives you an inkling of things to come. Imagine a purser with a service of 2 years drawing a handsome salary gets pink slipped and he has bought a house as an investment, how will he pay the EMIs???? Experts say the next in line after the credit crisis will be the corporate houses. From the way airlines are laying off staff, it appears travel has fallen down by an unprecedented extent, the next in line will be the hospitality industry which will have a ripple effect. This layoff will have a snowballing effect on God knows how many businesses including fleet operators who used to earn their living shunting airline employees too and fro from the airport and so many other professions!!

Already per reports there is a drastic reduction in sales at malls and supermarkets due to the aftermath of the financial crisis. Also almost every second day there are reports of suicides by entire families and individuals because of the financial crisis.

It is advisable to stay clear off the markets and real estate for the time being till things start to improve and this process, per my opinion, will take a long time and till then we will have to bear with the pain.

Please stay in cash and don`t get your night`s sleep disturbed due to the ongoing market volatility, credit card loans, et al.

Cheers!!

16 Oct 2008 22:46

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : DUstocks
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 25.05 ( -6.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.00 ( -6.54 % )
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I`m afraid RN this reply refelects a relative lack of conviction ... so please paper-trade more than just a day and only THEN try the operative out if your paper-trades throw some convincing data.

Forget RNRL, where you were supposed to get back to me after paper-trading my 2:1 ratio cash-shorting operative.

The three medical questions were - why the blood doesn`t clot inside the body; how do you develop antibodies to antigens NEVER experienced by yr body; the mystery of the basic organizational difference between the brain and the spinal cord in regard of the grey & white matters ! You can forget all this too, and may just focus on a very critical evaluation of the operative under discussion !!...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : radhika_nandlal

Du,

My confidence in my trading skills has taken a severe beating, sometimes TA plays out immediately and sometimes not and this month i have 25K loss... well i will check out my trading skills all over again with a paper trade using ur strategy tomorrow and will come back.

RNRL you said?

Three questions? Dont remember...

Thanks

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