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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suresh_esgTracked by: 0 Boarder
It is same for most investors!.. My portfolio is now 65% of what it used to be. I am not worried. You know why?.. I always expect the unexpected. That is to assume in advance that the shares I buy will come down.
At these times, the only thing I do is to buy selective stocks. Some of these include the ones in my folio and some are new. This will pay off in the long run.
I have recently got into Omaxe(120),Parsvanath(107),HDIL(175) and JP Associates(113). At the time of purchase I did anticipate that the prices of these stocks may come down though the fall has come a little earlier and a little more than what I expected it to be. But never mind, I would only use this opportunity to add some more of these stocks to my folio as I believe this sector will have a future in the long run.
I am writing this because most of the time investors sell off in panic at a huge price difference. Selling out of panic is not a good thing. If we believe in the stock, we should hold it and average it if necessary.
Hope there will be atleast some one getting benefit out of this.....
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
vam_aru
Dear Suyogparakh,
We should never rely on this broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst, because all are having some interest about what they recommend, so the decisions has to be taken with the organized way and making sure that the investment fall in line with your risk capacity.
My portfolio is now become 60 % less, most of the investors portfolio sinks to 50 % to 80 % now ( whoever started last year from SEP 2007 ), so it would be very wise to take your own decisions and device some strategies to come out with out loss or win the markets.
Good luck.. 
Regarding Allotment of bonus shares
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
I bought 50 HDIL shares on 21st August 2008 and as per BSE/NSE announcement expiry date for bonus share was 21st August 2008 itself while record date was 22nd August 2008. So according to this I should be eligible for the bonus share ( I should receive almost 14 shares ) but still I have not received any. Could any one of you tell me what could be the reason?...
is it gudd to invest in gdil at this time
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
guys plz tell me..is is gud to buy hdil priced 97 /-
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
indiabullequityTracked by: 0 Boarder
Don`t worry yaar. Think that you have purchased a property in a good place which is going to give poisitive return after 2+ years.
Otherwise average at this level(or say at 20-25% lower level fm now,if available) looking into 1year perspective.
I am really not understanding, why to be sorry(or worried)--i) when you only done the mistake & ii) Yor are invested in a firm benchmark company like HDIL... ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : vam_aruTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear Suyogparakh,
We should never rely on this broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst, because all are having some interest about what they recommend, so the decisions has to be taken with the organized way and making sure that the investment fall in line with your risk capacity.
My portfolio is now become 60 % less, most of the investors portfolio sinks to 50 % to 80 % now ( whoever started last year from SEP 2007 ), so it would be very wise to take your own decisions and device some strategies to come out with out loss or win the markets.
Good luck.. ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : vam_aruTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear Suyogparakh,
It`s really bad that your investment drops around 87%, Most of the investors got hammered by the excessive valuations set by our markets during SEP 2007 to DEC 2007, This HDIL stock would gained 90 rs and 140 rs in a single day to create that "MAYA`, so when it started to fall most of the retailers got in to the stock thinking that this is the bottom, But it now hovers around 90 rs.
The only way to get out of this stock in one or two years is to buy around 9 times of your initial quantity around 75 rs to 90 levels, and keep on playing COVERED CAll writing method to reduce your average every month ( the covered call writing should be above your average price of your entire HDIL holdings, That way even if HDIL start to gain you will get your entire investment back ), this way you can come out with out much loss, But you need to have lot of courage, Money and patience to do that, otherwise it`s wise to just to average once at this rate, and wait for miracles to happen... ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : googolTracked by: 0 Boarder
1105
Friend,
First and foremost:Do not lose heart.All of us are in the same boat
Secondly,you are somewhat lucky.Got struck with a good stock.
Thirdly,forget that number 728,for some years
Fourthly, start buying in small lots now keeping the investment amount constant and invest same amount for every Rs10 fall.(I can`t say how much w/o knowing your financial status.But let it be matchable to your initial purchase)
Fifthly,the above lots have to be considered as separate entities and should NEVER be averaged.If you are buying four lots,sell the first lot (qty) when the price goes above the third lot price.
Sixthly and foremost stop listening to the analysts,experts et al.
They do not know anything.There are a few boarders here who can guide you far better.
Good Luck!...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
Clarity from Management
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear All
There are various market rumours about the default in repayment of loans taken from various Banks and financial institutions.We would like to inform and reassure the investors, that HDIL is in good financial condition and is repaying all its commitments as per schedule.
We strongly condem such rumours, which is totally motivated and spread with vested interest.
We would be glad to furnish any informations and details as required by investors.
Regards
Hari Prakash Pandey
Deputy General Manager Finance
Housing Development and Infrastructure Limited
9-01, Dheeraj Arma,
Anant Kanekar Marg,
Bandra (East),
Mumbai - 400 051
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
Message from HDIL management.
Dear All
There are various market rumours about the default in repayment of loans taken from various Banks and financial institutions.We would like to inform and reassure the investors, that HDIL is in good financial condition and is repaying all its commitments as per schedule.
We strongly condem such rumours, which is totally motivated and spread with vested interest.
We would be glad to furnish any informations and details as required by investors.
...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : sangrani
I am a trader and investor with 15 yrs in market and also trade in major markets.. these analsysts and indian brokerages on channels only fool inbestors and fool themseleves. may be they are offloading at those levels. A small exapmle Taylor Wipmy is the biggest developer for homes in U.K and is FTSE traded. the share price crashed from £3.50 to 22 pence in a span of 6 months. barrat developents another big group in U.K came crashing from £9 to 40 pence low. I was shocked read and see that when gloabl real estate names were crashing, Indian anaylysts have been recomending HDIL, DLF and others to guy at 600 rs levels when at exact times taylor wimmpey and barrats were at 25 pence and 48 pence. I real pity these analysts and some big names in india who have published buy reports on HDIL and DLF. these guys should be punished and I sympathise with you for the loss. I advise you to buy hdil at these levels and when it gets to 250 -300 exit please. it may take time to get to 700-800 unless you are prepared to hold for 3 years. it is beyond belief that these domestic big Indian names did not see the impact what US and UK can create on India and ther emerging economies. markets will bounce anytime and you will miss the opporunity at these levels. I am now advising to buy sensex stocks for a strong returns and the period would be 6 months to 12 months...please use stop loss which comes with a lot of experience and do not blame you. I am buying icicibank, tatapower, suzlon, punj, tcs, infosys,mind tree, mtnl , rcom etc at these levels. this is an opporunity and smart people and big names are buying
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : sangraniTracked by: 0 Boarder
I am a trader and investor with 15 yrs in market and also trade in major markets.. these analsysts and indian brokerages on channels only fool inbestors and fool themseleves. may be they are offloading at those levels. A small exapmle Taylor Wipmy is the biggest developer for homes in U.K and is FTSE traded. the share price crashed from £3.50 to 22 pence in a span of 6 months. barrat developents another big group in U.K came crashing from £9 to 40 pence low. I was shocked read and see that when gloabl real estate names were crashing, Indian anaylysts have been recomending HDIL, DLF and others to guy at 600 rs levels when at exact times taylor wimmpey and barrats were at 25 pence and 48 pence. I real pity these analysts and some big names in india who have published buy reports on HDIL and DLF. these guys should be punished and I sympathise with you for the loss. I advise you to buy hdil at these levels and when it gets to 250 -300 exit please. it may take time to get to 700-800 unless you are prepared to hold for 3 years. it is beyond belief that these domestic big Indian names did not see the impact what US and UK can create on India and ther emerging economies. markets will bounce anytime and you will miss the opporunity at these levels. I am now advising to buy sensex stocks for a strong returns and the period would be 6 months to 12 months...please use stop loss which comes with a lot of experience and do not blame you. I am buying icicibank, tatapower, suzlon, punj, tcs, infosys,mind tree, mtnl , rcom etc at these levels. this is an opporunity and smart people and big names are buying ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
I don`t know much about HDIL but in general about real estate all I have to say is why aren`t the big guys buying all the real estate giants that have fallen almost 90%. Why aren`t Jhunjhunwala or Damani buying HDIL or Unitech or Parsvnath or JP Associates or DLF ? If HDIL is actually going to go to 700+ thats 8x , I`m sure these guys have enough knowledge to analyze how much they can make by investing in these stocks yet they are staying. Not all retail investors have the knowledge to analyze businesses but you can atleast use your common sense....
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear Syogprakash
It may be a good company. Even I bought 50@335/- listening to anlysts. As you said many people gave buy calls, which in turn achieved 90. Rs.1300 lavels - Rs.90.
Don`t avg HDIL or any other realty stocks immediately, as we don`t know the future prblms, which may hit this further. Avg this only when realty sector comes to bottom level & shows some strength.
Even selling at this rate has no meaning. Keep watching and invest in good companies which are avlbl at good rates.
Bye, Rsb....
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : miltonTracked by: 0 Boarder
It pains when you loose ur hard earn money and I understand ur state of mind you might be running thru.. You must have lost nearly 7 lakhs in this transaction but u must have gained more than 7 lakhs in your stock market knowledge. Its good that you have burnt ur fingers and you understand how it feels, so next time u will be more cautiously and wise in your dealings.
Dont believe in this TA, Fundamental analysis they are all MENTALS/LUNATICS/PIMPS in this stock market. If there prediction was so accurate and correct, they could be billionaries in the stock market and wont be having time to give recommendition to us. They are worse than the Chameleons who changes their colors according to the environment. Averaging ur share is not a solution. Wait for a while till the dust settles down and then enter. It will be foolish again on your part if you plunge urself in greed of regaining ur lost money. Market is in bearish mode, it will take certainly long time to come in the bullish stage. If you have surplus money than buy dividend yield stock or Blue chip stock, because it will be the first to rise.
Believe in almighty and Believe in yourself. See what you had return
back to society when u had earned money. I am sure when you follow this principle, you will be a successful investor in your life.
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
As an individual investor for this much of amount (728*1200=873600) you should have done some home work. You did nothing except listening to idiots who speaks based on FII`s pouring money into particular sector. Now you paid (around 7laks) for not doing home work properly.
Neither you havent done homework nor you havent followed the foot steps of successors like Warren Buffet. ( His strategy is Buy the Stocks with gud fundamentals and Buy the stock when everyone is selling it and sell the stock when everyone is buying it ).
In future, have diversed portfolio apart from investing so much in single stock. Atleast you would have saved around 300000 from the loss of 700000.
In my personal view, dont sell it now. Almost it is bottomed out. If you are a long term investor. Have patience and hold it for atleast 15 to 20 months for break even.
------------------Never blame others for your failure-------------
You have brain to think....:)
!! Don in investing !!
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by : suyogparakhTracked by: 0 Boarder
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
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