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05 Dec 2008 13:05

Believe it or not, the top most column about notional loss seems to have been purged. I swear it was there yesterday and today it is gone. It deserved to go because of its silly math. Never mind...

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Mathematically challenged on fund returns?

Posted by : ashok_n

Which column are you talking about?

05 Dec 2008 11:41

Which column are you talking about?...

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Mathematically challenged on fund returns?

Posted by : netdo

Value Research online has a column about folks who are worried about their losses in funds. The article points to lower fund losses relative to loss shown by the comparative index. I am sure it was intended to calm the nerves of the readers sitting on huge loss this year even if they did SIP. But I am at a **loss** to understanding this. Not all funds are doing better than corresponding index. Even if they are, a 30% fund loss will take 43% up move to get even. What difference would it make if my fund lost 30% and index lost 43%, YTD. Am I missing something here?

05 Dec 2008 00:13
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Dear Experts,

Shall i continue or stop with SIP in HSBC Euity Fund? Are there any detials how this fund is performing?

Thanks
Rohit...

04 Dec 2008 22:24

Bank Account

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Yes I am afraid it will/can be a problem on redemption. You need to worry how would you can validate the repatriability of the redemption check. If it is deposited in to NRE account, you can indeed repatriate allthe money from that acount. That is the defibition of NRE account. It holds deposit made with foreign currency. The AMC will verify the origonal source of the money invested with them and certify the repatriability to the depositing Bank. All NRO accounts areby definition a rupee only account with no previlege to repatriate the deposit. This the default option for all AMC sending out redemption checks. I do not understand who gave you the wrong advise to commingle the NRO/NRE money. If you have no intentions of taking it abroad, all this is academic. HTH....

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Bank Account

Posted by : m_i_khilji

I invested (and investing) through my HDFC NRE Account. All SIPs are done from this account as well as, I invest online through respective AMC websites.
Now, If I invest through AMC websites and pay the amount (invest) from HDFC NRO Account, is it OK? or some problem might arise?

04 Dec 2008 21:59

Value Research online has a column about folks who are worried about their losses in funds. The article points to lower fund losses relative to loss shown by the comparative index. I am sure it was intended to calm the nerves of the readers sitting on huge loss this year even if they did SIP. But I am at a **loss** to understanding this. Not all funds are doing better than corresponding index. Even if they are, a 30% fund loss will take 43% up move to get even. What difference would it make if my fund lost 30% and index lost 43%, YTD. Am I missing something here? ...

04 Dec 2008 20:19

Considering all good but still fee gouging Indian funds (relative to good low cost US funds availabe in the US) Why would some one from US even bother with Turkeys like AIG and Templeton funds in
India? These funds families are already in disrepute in the US for entry loads, high fees and performance. I doubt they are even worth a consideration here for purchase by a NRI even if made available to them....

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Investing in MF (SIP) from USA

Posted by : RANJAN

Both of you are wrong. NRIs who are U.S. based cannot invest in some funds like AIG / Templeton which have an U.S. connection.

04 Dec 2008 13:25

Dear Khilji,
The first and foremost thing to do is reduce the no. of funds from 33 to more manageble 8 to 10 funds. One way to do this is if you have 3-4 funds from the same fund house, switch to better performing one or two large cap oriented funds. for instance, you have HDFC growth and Top 200. Both are similar though Growth is doing slightly better. since you have lost a substantial amount in the funds, you might be thinking of recovering the losses but then the recovery is going to take sometime and in the mean time you can cocentrate on pruning your portfolio.
Have you checked the recent performance of some of the Gilt funds? May be you can invest some or part of your redeemed funds to Gilt funds. Check it out on VROL.
Regards,
Wadia ...

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My Portfolio in Mutual Funds

Posted by : m_i_khilji

Some more tips? help?

04 Dec 2008 11:26

How do you ensure that you survive financial turmoil? What can be done? In such markets, it’s important to review your financial situation....

04 Dec 2008 11:26

Correct like how japanese investors keep going failure to failure. (35K+ in 1988 and 8K+ in 2008).

If 20 yrs is not long enough - check out the graph of Nikkei - Steady decline for 20 years....

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Tough times don`t last but tough investors do!

Posted by : MMB Messenger

How do you ensure that you survive financial turmoil? What can be done? In such markets, it’s important to review your financial situation.

03 Dec 2008 15:20

Dear AKAR,

Following Funds may be considered under High Return ( High Risk also)
Fund.

DWS Alpha Equity
KOTAK -30
Sundaram Select Focus
Reliance Diversified Power Sector Fund / Reliance Growth Fund
ICICI Infra. Fund
IDFC Premier Equity Fund


DSPBR Top 100 / DSPBR Equity Fund are also GOOD High Return with Medium Risk.

P.C.Sharma



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How is Templeton India Eq. Income doing?

Posted by : akar

Dear PCS,
Thanks for your comments.
What other funds do you suggest or have in this category, when you say high returns?

Thanks
akar

03 Dec 2008 15:11

Dear RG,

You may Invest Rs.20000 X 5 on different Dates in Following Funds.

DSPBR Top 100 Equity Fund
DWS Alpha Equity Fund
HDFC GROWTH Fund
KOTAK -30 Fund
Sundaram Select Focus fund

P.C.Sharma



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Onetime investment in MF

Posted by : rrr98762003

Hi,

Since market is down so much, what could be best 4 MF funds to invest onetime = 4 x 25000 Rs

Thanks
RG

03 Dec 2008 13:39

Some more tips? help?...

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My Portfolio in Mutual Funds

Posted by : m_i_khilji

Dear Sharmaji,
Thanks for reply.

As per your suggestion, I will like the following switches for sure:

DSPBR India T.I.G.E.R. to DSPBR Equity Fund - Regular Plan(D)
Sundaram Capex Opportunities to Sundaram Select Focus(D)
Sundaram Select Midcap to Sundaram Selectt Focus(D)
Birla Sun Life Equity to Birla Sun Life Frontline Equity(G)

Regarding SBI Magnum Global (G), I am confused, wheather to switch to Magnum Contra(D) or redeem it and invest in HDFC Growth (as you suggested)

Same with Reliance Vision also. I think its went down along with some other funds like Reliance Natural Resources, but done better than 5 star rating fund like TATA Infrastucture!

So after the sure switches (total 4, I mentioned at top) funds will be 28. And if I switch SBI Global & Reliance Vision then, I will be left with 26 funds.

Will be waiting for more suggestions.

03 Dec 2008 13:37
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I invested (and investing) through my HDFC NRE Account. All SIPs are done from this account as well as, I invest online through respective AMC websites.
Now, If I invest through AMC websites and pay the amount (invest) from HDFC NRO Account, is it OK? or some problem might arise?...

03 Dec 2008 12:58

MFs

Posted by : KotakInvestment
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Dear amith020,

Our buy list for today contains:

DLF ,,SBI ,,RELIANCE,, HDFC,,HDFC BANK,,BHEL,, and RELIANCE CAPITAL.

Kindly check my NEWS LETTER...

S.KOTAK...

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MFs

Posted by : amith020

Sir,could i buy gold in commodity trading with time frame of 2 to 3 months.Sir i lost one lakh,now i am left with another lakh which i want to trade with at most care,could u guide me in gold or a stock is also welcome,my pick is Rel at 1000 or GVK power at 12.00/-,i have parked this amt since last two months in my trading Account.

Thanks and regards
Amith
if poss pl mail me at my personnel id amith020@gmail

03 Dec 2008 12:55

MFs

Posted by : KotakInvestment
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Govt may announce Package next week.

It may help reality stocks. That is what we believe.

And in that sense, you can buy and hold DLF, Unitech,
Punj till week end and then exit with profits without
taking risk of what is there in Package next week.

At least this week would be of REALITY STOCKS.
HCC , NAG. CONSTR.also be tracked

S. Kotak...

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MFs

Posted by : amith020

Sir,could i buy gold in commodity trading with time frame of 2 to 3 months.Sir i lost one lakh,now i am left with another lakh which i want to trade with at most care,could u guide me in gold or a stock is also welcome,my pick is Rel at 1000 or GVK power at 12.00/-,i have parked this amt since last two months in my trading Account.

Thanks and regards
Amith
if poss pl mail me at my personnel id amith020@gmail

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