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07 Oct 2008 19:57

Hahaha lol.....tks for suggestions but it don`t needs a treatment... not what you are thinking... I took some time off because of wedding from Indian mkt and got caught on the wrong foot. a bit.......

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : sp.palo

dear pkjattking,
Lovely message.

Just wanted to know why that delicate part has become red ? were you not aware of the dirty games of big players or you always wanted the markets to go up to 30-40K giving you sweat-less money always.

Rub some aloe Vera gel there and it will cool down and become green. Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho...

Wish happy markets ahead. But still i feel a possibility of 10% correction.

regards
shakti


07 Oct 2008 19:45

DOW will end in green today.............

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : pkjattking

Dow will open above 10000 n lets hope it holds ...

07 Oct 2008 19:33

dear pkjattking,
Lovely message.

Just wanted to know why that delicate part has become red ? were you not aware of the dirty games of big players or you always wanted the markets to go up to 30-40K giving you sweat-less money always.

Rub some aloe Vera gel there and it will cool down and become green. Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho...

Wish happy markets ahead. But still i feel a possibility of 10% correction.

regards
shakti


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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : pkjattking

I pay taxes rite now I have to find a way to get my ass back in green....lol

07 Oct 2008 19:32

dear BSR,
What you said is absolutely right, well, FII`s are just waiting in for a right time to gush in, i dont think any experienced ones can match the might of FII`s buying, i had friend who was a dealer, he always said, when they buy even if the whole markets sits out to sell, they absorb it and when they sell, its the same, it bleeds every DII, HNI and every other person, And FII`s are prudent investors, they dont think for 50-100 rupees, they think long term of 5-10-15 years and get into equity, they have been left not with many choices, They have had alot of pain in other markets, also to tell you my friend, FII`s only look for fundamentals, they are least concerened of markets moving in 6 months time or so, well capitulation as said is not what happens when analyst say, it has already happened, the big boy reliance saw its capitulation from 2500 to sub 1700 levels, These analyst scare poor investors stating that it is gonna take place, it already took place... And as you say all indian stocks for these FII`s is like a penny stock now, may be they will start their show very soon,
SEBI also brought the Revoke of ban on P-notes into force this evening
Regards...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Dear inves_t_rader,

While I was reading your msg, I remember those BS FIIs talking about caputalation in Indian markets when we are so close to the bottom or who knows, we may have already tasted that bottom! :)

Those same BS FIIs are not talking about caputalation in other markets where they have used that PUMP and DUMP methods to make exit now.

Those FIIs are OVERWEIGHT on B R C and look at the news related to HALT on trading in such environments!

Those FIIs are UNDERWEIGHT on I and there is no news yet of any HALF on trading! :)

Strange are the GAME PLAYed by those BS FIIs! :)

Anyway, everyone knows that those FIIs are also just waiting with piles of money to buy Indian stocks at dirt cheap prices as most of them seems like PENNY stocks when one does the USD conversions taking Future growth into accounts! :) :)

Probably, those BS FIIs do not know that there are many Long Term, expereinced Investors in India waiting for that Capitulation on the part of those FIIs so that those LT investors can do that BUY and Build Long term Portfolio for themselves! :) :)

Anyway, one need to do self research instead of relying on those BS experts! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

07 Oct 2008 19:11

Dear Observr,
I am an individual and not some fake id of kalidasji.
If you want to know who i am just write awargaonkar in the search engine you will immediately know who i am.
I hope then you will understand.
I have no nick names and no aliases.
That is my real name.
Please post some informative posts dont write this crap ok.
regards,
amarawargaonkar....

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SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days

Posted by : Observr

Dear Goldchest
An id of the great person KaliD ji= amarasgaonkar

Now this is the third group formed(on this forum) on the anvil of multiple ids by one person viz.:

First: J
Second: K
And now third another K

Keep it up

- Keen Observer...

07 Oct 2008 19:06

Dow will open above 10000 n lets hope it holds ......

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Posted by : BullSheetRules

yep look good so far...

Good to see some value in red at the moment on account of LOW Volume Game in spite of sensible GAME played by those BIG PLAYers! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

07 Oct 2008 19:02

I pay taxes rite now I have to find a way to get my ass back in green....lol...

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Posted by : Atheist

Sir,
Are you classified as a FDI or a FII?
Do you invest in India on an individual capacity? And do you pay
taxes on your profits from your Indian portfolio to the Government
of India or to the US govt?
Just curious.
...Singh...

07 Oct 2008 18:45

Hello BSR,
Thanks for your concern regarding my investments. Yes I am being quite careful with it because it involves huge amount of money. I had been waiting with funds since nine months for these times, in fact I did not even make a fixed deposit lest I need my money at immediate notice because sometimes market desicions require quick thinking and immediate liquidity. I am entering in a staggered manner and if sugar sector sinks further for which I am well prepared, I shall average my purchases on further downfalls. I do need to start entering at 3600 levels otherwise one never knows SEBI might do something immensely popular with which we might start rallying and I dont want to miss the bus.
thanks
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Dear lovemeall26,

Just a BS advise as a precauiton: Be careful with Renuka or Triveni! Unlike BajajHind, Balramchin, There are still lot of HAMMERING left in those two stocks if those two stocks go for complete BEARish corrections!! I understand you will manage those onslaughts well!:)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

07 Oct 2008 18:43

Bear markets can be classified in two terms broadly one is time based correction (sustains more than 18 months) and the other one is value based correction (slips nearly 50% from its peak). We are almost reached the value based correction at this point of time but we are just 9 months old that’s key point we should have to consider.
Of course we can get some cues from the history but I will not rely on them for to evaluate as ideal examples because we should evaluate the current conditions (like micro and macros) then only we can come to the right decision.

So, our micro and macro picture is not good. Still we are trading at high price multiples when compared to the global emerging markets,
We are facing the so many problems right now like
1. Global financial crisis
2. Huge liquidity crunch globally
3. Huge unwinding by FIIs, selling on every opportunity.
4. We are at higher inflation levels
5. We are at higher interest rate regime
6. Recent cuts in GDP growth rates
7. Poor IIP numbers
8. Margins shrinking in Q1FY09 and will slip further in Q2
9. Still our nifty trading at 18 PE
10. We are in an election year
11. Huge current fiscal deficit due to various subsidies
12. DIIs (MFs) are net sellers in the recent month

In my view, it is more than a BEAR MARKET it is the CRISIS. So, we can’t compare it with the bear markets of the past we have to compare it with the Previous CRISES.

So and so many, all will indicate us that ‘we are not out of wounds’ and ‘worst is behind us’. BE CAUTIOUS.

With thanks
Be and make
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Where do you see the Nifty bottoming out?

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger

07 Oct 2008 18:33



Posted by: nightowl on (07-Oct-08 17:57 )


Guest,
listen and listen carefully... YOU DONT SCARE ME..I KNOW WHO YOU ARE... I WILL INTERACT WITH WHOMSOEVER I WISH..its not your business.. if i sink its my problem.. not yours..and please refrain from posting messages to me.. i dislike obstrusive men AND womenmaking uncalled for suggestions.. do you understand thyat you are perhaps the most disliked person on mmb board..get AWAY AND KEEP YOUSELF PARKED THERE
Nightowl

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Guest

Seems that Mr. HLN is the captain of the Ship with Many innocent investors onboard. His ship will sink to the bottom of blue see, even when there is no storm, just because of his wierd so called techincal analysis, and will take full toll on the innocent investors listening and subscribing to his paid services. He is always seem beating his own drum for predicting levels correct, which actually he predicts to be in month of January and gradually keeps moving the timeframe as the market progresses. Somewhere in no mans land, his levels are reached in last quarter of year ( which are anyways supposed to come ), he will come out with his drum. God save those who are doomed by this person.

07 Oct 2008 18:23

No Probs, pradesh! Thank you for your appreciation for that short capsule course!! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)


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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : pradesh


Excuse me BSR for intrusion..

Excellent capsule course!!

07 Oct 2008 18:15

3250 is Very Stong base level...beyond this 2550...That most probably is the end to the Bear ...

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Where do you see the Nifty bottoming out?

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger

07 Oct 2008 18:12

NIFTY HIT and Crack 3600 ...next... 3250 is Very Stong base level...beyond this 2550...That most probably is the end to the Bear Market...

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Posted by : vtycoon

all guys n dupes hre..

listen

NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000 i will shave my BALD k...if u think dat NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000 den u guys sux...btta leave share market..u have no right 2 stay hre..

other indices r on dre 1 year low n india is outperformin its peer + uS MARkets...n again nifty will go 2 15000...n if it starts fallin frm dat level it ont touch NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000 .dis k,...so guys i sugest u betta don reply dese DUpe msg's n njoy..

JAI HINd !

07 Oct 2008 18:10


Excuse me BSR for intrusion..

Excellent capsule course!! ...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Dear sd3,

Before going for more details:

1. Be Clear of WHY you are into this GAME of stock market!

Most ppl who are into this GAME of Stock market are not clear of WHY! :) :)

That is, it would be interesting identify first yourself as what is the purpose of being in stock market!

Are you in this GAME for making MONEY or for some other reasons like EGO satisfaction?

EGO satisfactions could be anything- fashionable to have stocks, Being the WINNER of that Popular Contest that goes in stock market like BUYIng at the LOWest price, enjoy the thrills or anything…

2. Then identify kind of PLAYER in the GAME you are -- trader or investor!

There are variations within those different set of traders and investors. They ACT differently in this GAME of Stock market! :)

3. Check what kind of trader or investor matches with your Personality and STYLE! Are you A type (HIGHLY Aggressive) or B type (Highly defensive) or Lying somewhere in between?

4. Check your TIME FRAME. Do you wish to check your portfolio on Minute to Minute basis or day to day basis or week to week basis!

That time frame itself will give a good idea about kind of strategies one need to adopt for making Money in stock market!:)

5. Be clear of Popular BS myths that goes in stock market! Understand what are the reasons for such popular BS Myths! How those BS myths stop common investors from making Money in stock market:)

Let me give some idea:

Every Big Player says, Build a well diversified Portfolio!

If you BUY all the stocks at same time, then that portfolio will never give you a good return!

Just think of Nifty. Those who have well diversified portfolio on the line of Nifty at 3500 a few years back are still at the same value.

Diversified Portfolio is NOT BENEFICIAL for common retail investors

As Buffet says that diversified portfolio is for ignorant, for those who do not know what they are doing! :)

Understand the Popular GAME related to SECOTOR Rotation in stock market!

Coming to your questions:

For question 1, Check different PDFs available for free in different websites!
For newbies, the following book could be useful! Not sure whether PDF is available or not! :)
--
Way of the Turtle: The Secret Methods that Turned Ordinary People into Legendary Traders
--

GAME of STOCK Market is more about yourself, then about those BS experts, TA, FA or Sentiments! :) :)

Other you can easily find while looking out for those references!! :)

For question 2,

Check again different Exit strategies available for free as part of literature.

E.g. Fibonacci based exit strategy... momentum based exit strategy... sentimental based exit strategy... or ta based exit strategy... LT exit strategy.. Fundamental exit strategy... TA exit strategy…

Do not fall to that popular BS Myth that exit once you gain of profift of 15% , then exit. Most of the times, a single trade will give a large result than those small trades. This will come with expereince!:)

Popular ones for BUY High and Sell High kind of traders are related to Fibonacci based exit strategy... momentum based exit strategy:):)

I hope that give your some idea in short! Rest you have to do on your OWN as each individual is different!

Learning on your own will help you see more MONEY making opportunities. There is no HOLY Grail in different TA FA.. everything is with you! :)

I hope that helps! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

07 Oct 2008 18:07

Hello novice1000,
How correct you are in your assessment of the realty sectory, thats why I am entering it in a staggered manner and not in one go.
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : novice1000

dear lovemeall,

You are right that in a 5 year time frame, realty stocks will do well.But the sector is very likely to be an underperformer in the year 2009.So fresh LT investors wont loose any opportunity by keeping them selves away from Realty space.

If one wants to be in realty space, unitech would be a good bet.

But right now, one has to be choosy and stock specific.Though most of the price correction already took place, time bound correction will be there.

Your picks will surely reward you in the long term..

regards

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