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06 Oct 2008 18:48

Sir, I am posting this blog as a concerned investor. if you see the market in India, there is a Planned, Licensed and Authorized rape of market happening over.

If you look at the Dow Chart it is down from 52 high of 14280 to 10325 (down 27.70%), NASDAQ from 2851 to 1947 (Down 32%), FTSE from 6751 to 4735 (Down 29.91%) & Bombay from 21206 to 11801 (down 44.35%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).What happens in India. the fall in US and Europe is due to subprime lending in the US and European Market and it is not that much.

But are there any subprime assets in India for which bank are worried about. Yes, there are but the subprime assets in India are not like that of US or Europe. the are well within control of the Govt. and Banks, Still there is a free fall in the Indian Market. When Us is not falling much then why India. KABHI SOCHA KYON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everywhere in the world short selling is banned now. But in India, how can Our worthy Finance Minister or SEBI Chief will allow to this, because they have vested interest in the fall of the market. they are licensed to drag the market to its lowest. They are licensed to rape the invester.

Actually the Indian Politian like Finance Minister P.C. Chidembram, Indian PM Manmohan Singh SEBI CHIEF Mr. Bhave are sold themselves to the FII or so called to the the authorized to rape agent. The Ministers are giving them safe & free exit to siphon off the money out of the India. Why, Why, Why???. A Big Question. There is a high level of corruption spread in the upper level of politics. Any how One has to think over it. I can speak/write N no. of pages onto it, but I think the ink will finish but the story of corruption will not end. Think over it. I do not want to write an essay. But think over it. Seriously.

There is a huge amount of tax collected during the past years, but what happens to the development. There is about 50,000 crore of Education funds collected during the last few year in the name of Education Cess. But what happens with the level of education. A report says that from every rupee collected for the purpose of education, 85 % is for establishment (Salaries) expenses. And what is the level of teacher we are getting. I think I should not speak about it.

Everybody has watched the most shameful ever event in LOKSABHA during the trust vote.

I think there is a solution to it. Let us start non cooperation movement. When you pay tax what they do with it. Transfer to the Swiss bank. I am a Chartered Accountant by Profession. Some of my clients was paying taxes in more then Rs. 20-25 lac per year. . What they get, Social security No you must be joking. They find threat to their life, unnecessary harassment by the govt. officials, every year painful scrutiny assessment. Are you made for it????. No a Big No. You must pay for the sake of the nation, but when everything goes into the pockets of the politicians, what is the use. So from now onwards lets us not pay the taxes to the government. Let us start non-cooperation movement.
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06 Oct 2008 15:43

execute fire sale shopping strategy for some protfolio buy....

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Fire Sale Shopping Strategy for 25% portfolio

Posted by : sam_pd

some more panic selling is expected next week, so there shouldn`t be any hurry to add more.

Fire Sale Shopping Strategy for 25% portfolio buying in steps.

1.watch business channel with mute if you need to
2.pick your stock( not more than 5 stocks) from the list which also trades in f/o and fallen 40% from top if large cap and fallen 70% from top if midcap. and see its daliy volatility, multply it with 2.5 times, if price goes below it and volume is greater than previous day, then some more can be added at lower levels .
3.if you have added and prices fall more, then don`t add any more that day, watch if there is any bad news flow or rumor.
4.If panic sells continues, based on news flow another shot for repeating the steps can be done.
5.This way over the time 25% of portfolio buying in steps can be done. 75% remains in cash.
Cheers!!

06 Oct 2008 13:09
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its seems there are so many say we are not going to have any effects from the crisis and talk of the high growth emerging global economy. see the crisis going to take many big financial institutions, banks, biggies of the emerging india china any time and many small going out of business. already the signs of crisis spreading to the asian, the india economy are increasingly felt with almost highly drying up of foreign investments, flows many seeing difficult to be in business. one must can be in the sidelines and avoid keeping their liquids in the financial, banking areas be in cash in totally. see the things of doses by many to help calm crisis is not going to have any effect only see it aggrevating and spreading to highly risky emerging asian, india economy....

06 Oct 2008 06:43

The PM should act immediately and proper steps should be taken to stabilise the marekt atleast at these levels.... pl note that manmohan was made as PM to save the stock market four years ago.... he did his best to take the sensex from 4000 to 21000,but now ignoring the marekts whenever they really need help.... whatever be the reason, innocent investors money is robbed in stock market once again.... the responsible personnel can not sleep like this and should not put investors in regular/frequent troubles.......

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Market requires catalysts from govt....

Posted by : LOOKUP

Already the bears nailed the coffin.The responsible personnel are sleeping or acts as sleeping, they will come in after the death of the market. And there are few sick people who celeberates the market crash.Only GOD saves the ordinary small investors and long term investors.

06 Oct 2008 06:29

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It is not necesary to tell that many retail investors are in huge losses in recent times in stock market....

Mutual funds/institutions run by others` money and their managers may not be in panic because the money is not their own.... so,they dont mind what to do in panics....

Corporates or many promoters who have already siphoned money from the market through different options/routes.... they may not loose much even if market falls further....

Operators,bigbrokers,banks,few govt institutions who enjoyed the bull run minted money in recent years through stock market.... now they dont bother about the falls much.......

06 Oct 2008 02:26

Already the bears nailed the coffin.The responsible personnel are sleeping or acts as sleeping, they will come in after the death of the market. And there are few sick people who celeberates the market crash.Only GOD saves the ordinary small investors and long term investors....

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Market requires catalysts from govt....

Posted by : marketman

Almost all investors are in depression mood now.... many investors will be happy if the stocks/indicies do not fall atleast from present levels.... forget about profits i the near term.... investors not in position to loos much.... so,govt should immediately take few catalystic steps to attract buying interest in the market.... this is the time market requires help fromolicy makers.... pl note that in bull runs market doesnt require anybody`s help....

So,rbi,sebi,exchanges and govt should act positively for the market in coming days.... otherwise,we may have to see prolonged bear season in indian stock market....

05 Oct 2008 14:58

some more panic selling is expected next week, so there shouldn`t be any hurry to add more.

Fire Sale Shopping Strategy for 25% portfolio buying in steps.

1.watch business channel with mute if you need to
2.pick your stock( not more than 5 stocks) from the list which also trades in f/o and fallen 40% from top if large cap and fallen 70% from top if midcap. and see its daliy volatility, multply it with 2.5 times, if price goes below it and volume is greater than previous day, then some more can be added at lower levels .
3.if you have added and prices fall more, then don`t add any more that day, watch if there is any bad news flow or rumor.
4.If panic sells continues, based on news flow another shot for repeating the steps can be done.
5.This way over the time 25% of portfolio buying in steps can be done. 75% remains in cash.
Cheers!!...

05 Oct 2008 11:52

Almost all investors are in depression mood now.... many investors will be happy if the stocks/indicies do not fall atleast from present levels.... forget about profits i the near term.... investors not in position to loos much.... so,govt should immediately take few catalystic steps to attract buying interest in the market.... this is the time market requires help fromolicy makers.... pl note that in bull runs market doesnt require anybody`s help....

So,rbi,sebi,exchanges and govt should act positively for the market in coming days.... otherwise,we may have to see prolonged bear season in indian stock market.......

04 Oct 2008 13:50

In the above message crude should be read as dollar 15-30 per barrel....

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Are we going 10 years BACK?? Lets all Bailout US

Posted by : mannish

With recent turbulence I presume that those Golden days will be back where Gold will be shining at 5-6k per 10 gm....Silver at 7-8k per kg....Crude at -30/bbl.....Wheat,Rice,Edible oil,even the indices...etc...all seems to be coming down to there 10 yr old level but there is nothing to celebrate much as our income level or say salary level will also come down and we will have limited savings.
Are we going back down the 10 yrs line....are we stepping backward....is this a backward journey...what do we name it???? US has shown there presence & importance in a very big...... Friends we all need to Bailout United States Of America......Let the market stabilise which is foremost important for all of us....let the confidence comes back to investor.....lets all bring the positivity back to the market.

Regards,

Manish Bothra,
Kolkata.

04 Oct 2008 13:48

With recent turbulence I presume that those Golden days will be back where Gold will be shining at 5-6k per 10 gm....Silver at 7-8k per kg....Crude at -30/bbl.....Wheat,Rice,Edible oil,even the indices...etc...all seems to be coming down to there 10 yr old level but there is nothing to celebrate much as our income level or say salary level will also come down and we will have limited savings.
Are we going back down the 10 yrs line....are we stepping backward....is this a backward journey...what do we name it???? US has shown there presence & importance in a very big...... Friends we all need to Bailout United States Of America......Let the market stabilise which is foremost important for all of us....let the confidence comes back to investor.....lets all bring the positivity back to the market.

Regards,

Manish Bothra,
Kolkata....

04 Oct 2008 00:00

With the markets exposing their long hidden dirty linen ......should investors do the same to Dalal Street ..what Shri Ratan Tata dig to Singur....ie.pull out of equities for all...

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03 Oct 2008 09:23

Will SENSEX OR NIFTY go up today or not.? Why can\'t we have an ANXIETY INDEX to start with, to ride along with rumours

v.krishnamoorthyI...

03 Oct 2008 07:44

Few knoweldgble experts say the nifty is fairly valued at 4000.... now the things are changing slowly to stabilise financial markets.... in india everything is ok atleast till Q2 corporate results....

It is expected that Govt taking steps to protect investors' wealth from any sudden set backs in stock markets.......

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Now nifty fairly valued at 4000....

Posted by : marketman

Now,with the latest developments,nifty is said to be fairly valued at 4000 for this calender year.... so, market participants will have to plan accordingly for their short term positions....

If there is any positive news,the index may move beyond 4000,otherwise it will be hovering at around 4000 levels by giving lot of volatality to market participants....

Concentrating on growth stocks is the strategy for investment.... however speculators may be busy with high beta stocks for volatile returns....

01 Oct 2008 13:00

The nifty would like to stay at around 4000 for a while till it receives any positive or negative global/domestic sgnals.... at he moment all eyes are on American economy and on US bourses.......

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Now nifty fairly valued at 4000....

Posted by : marketman

Nifty is set to cross 4000 convincingly.... if there are no further negative global cues,it may move up 5% above 4000,ie 4200 is not ruled out in coming sesions.... if there is flow of bad news from overseas,once again it will have to take strong support at around 3800.... so,market may be hovering at around 4000 with +/- 5% volatality till the corporates announce the Q2 results....

01 Oct 2008 11:55
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its only going to get much deeper and into much larger scale, with the most on the side of not supporting any kind of using the public to again pay for the misdeeds of the wall streets. will not be surprised the thing of a revise plan failing to get the support of the people. the persons responsible for the mess should be made to pay and any kind of intervention in private business is only going to make it even worse. the risk capital is already started flowing out of equities into the safe commodities, debt. one should extraordinarily cut exposure from the global equities and can make accumulation of the safe precious metal. the things of crises has already started penetrating into the european, also started showing signs of housing/realty burst in the india markets. seeing a huge defaults in the mortage, housing, personal loans in the economy. even many of the mortages assets values getting drastically down,going junk are very high with the hugh collapse of the realty housing markets already in the india economy. effects already felt in the retail, the auto with the major economies facing recessions the supporting areas are seeing tremendous pressure to be in business, an extraordinary reduction in the foreign direct investment(FDI) in various sectors is also seen. ...

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