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07 Oct 2008 21:44

beware weak stock

Electrosteel

Posted by : stkstudent
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.65 ( -11.53 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.95 ( -9.80 % )
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The stock is presently heading towards your prediction. I can see only present weak market scenario as the reason. The volumes are good enough at the current price. What reason do you see for your prediction ?...

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beware weak stock

Posted by : desh

i told you when it will 21 it shows very weakness in this stock it will touch 14 rs which is six year low ie. 10 rs paid up 140

07 Oct 2008 21:44

NSE Announcements on Shiv Vani Oil

Shiv Vani Oil

Posted by : major_mind
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 441.50 ( 1.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 441.95 ( 1.29 % )
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hi mmbmesanger kindly try to provide somemore other information on shivani? why only bse-nse annoucemnts on all stoks?
regards...

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NSE Announcements on Shiv Vani Oil

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Shiv-Vani Oil & Gas Exploration Services Limited has submitted to the Exchange a copy of the Notice of the Annual General Meeting of the Shareholders of the company scheduled to be held on September 30, 2008. A copy of the same shall be available on the NSE website (http://www.nseindia.com) under Corporates > Latest Announcements and on the Extranet Server (/Common/Corporate Announcements).

07 Oct 2008 21:42

TARGETS AND INDICATORS FOR THE NEXT ONE YEAR

IFCI

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa. hope u are enjoying the fall. hah hahahah ha hha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

swamy.
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TARGETS AND INDICATORS FOR THE NEXT ONE YEAR

Posted by : bubbu64

Dear Vijay

if ur holding 81 shares of tech mach at 1200 I assume this is right now in a loss position. Given the current mkt scenario for the IT sector the sector is right now going through a very serious crisis of new deals for the next couple of years. I would advise u to not to sell those shares at a loss just bcoz the mkt has gone down. Take a long term view and forget those shares for the time being. Right now the current priority would to make sure not to invest any more in stocks till the mkt finds a bottom. Cahs is king. For now u might have to forget those techmach shares and hold a very long term view on them.

Regards

07 Oct 2008 21:41

3 digit on ABAN -fmcgbites

Aban Offshore

Posted by : fmcgbites
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1311.35 ( -10.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 1310.80 ( -9.98 % )
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VANILA SHORT can continue and 3 digit on ABAN soon -fmcgbites...

07 Oct 2008 21:38

HDIL loses further ground

HDIL

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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hi usgoel,
i am fully agreeing with your views on hdil. but the problem is they are sitting on a huge debt of 3,000+ crores. thats their biggest disadvantage...which will drive down its price further down. there are some strong bears in this counter thats why its falling so sharply. otherwise how can any stock fall so much yaar. may be after half yearly results the stock price will recover. its a steel buy at current levels i feel.

swamy.
...

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : usgoel

Further important is the optimism that people bought this stock at 800. They are holding it at 135 now. So they lost 800-135=665 per stock. You have only to lose 135 but can gain 1350. Fundamentals intact, p/e 2.5, eps 55, sound business (not like other realty businesses that totally depend on new developments, its into restructuring), Book Value 132..

I don`t know if it can go to Rs. 10 or 20 but all i know is that it will go to 1500 some day maybe after 2-4 years but it definitely will..

Happy Investing !!!

07 Oct 2008 21:33

I am happy to be back on MMB

IFCI

Posted by : raj_tibs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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And the next time around, hyperinflation WOULD NOT hurt India and China, as much it does the developed nations!...

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I am happy to be back on MMB

Posted by : raj_tibs

Novice,

I expect the hyper-inflation to start very soon.. There are two reasons for this: one - china has already made its intentions clear - it will focus on growth, and i believe this time it will be led by domestic consumption. two - more and more economies will find USD too risky to hold their reserves in...

Even India is likely to choose growth post-elections, and these two economies are more than enough to lead the world into a hyper-inflation - as early as second half of 2009/2010.

regards

07 Oct 2008 21:30

HDIL loses further ground

HDIL

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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I have always been bearish about this stock, it being in realty sector. Thanks for your guess....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs

dude, did u see, it has gone down below its bv.
what i said was correct i guess.

swamy.

07 Oct 2008 21:29

I am happy to be back on MMB

IFCI

Posted by : raj_tibs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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Dear Novice,

Thankfully, RBI is better off than fed.. and its good india owes money to the US than the other way around :-)

The govts around the world are not going to ANNOUNCE a move away from USD.. I guess it must have started about 6-12 months back... And thats why the current efforts to screw the entire world up and salvage whatever worth they can for the USD... It is the case of a murderer not trusting anyone :-) Will this make emerging powers more responsible? only time will tell... Looking at China`s treatment of Tibet, and what goes on in India, doesn`t seem to be the case..

I think the topmost factor for hyper-inflation will be the depreciation in USD :-)
...

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I am happy to be back on MMB

Posted by : novice1000

dear raj,

Hyperinflation may not last very long.That will lead to demand destruction.

Hyperinflation can be the result of lesser supply or higher growth.Anyways we are going to witness clear slowdown in the next 18 months.

By mid 2009, inflation will be well under control and we will see clear demand destruction and severe liquidity crunch.

How Indian govt will handle the liquidity crunch in the next fiscal is to be seen?

regards

07 Oct 2008 21:29

Open naked short in Educomp

Educomp Sol

Posted by : fmcgbites
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 2650.95 ( -4.62 % ), NSE: Rs. 2660.85 ( -4.20 % )
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2620 target on educomp is done with ease....

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Open naked short in Educomp

Posted by : fmcgbites

prepare yourself for the said target.

07 Oct 2008 21:29

What is PTC actually!!!

PTC India

Posted by : pkk07
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 57.70 ( -3.51 % ), NSE: Rs. 58.15 ( -3.49 % )
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Where did u get this info from?...

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What is PTC actually!!!

Posted by : gssamant

Total volumes for the past 3 months (July-September) has been approximately 600MU. With earnings expected to be around 2 paise/unit (1 for buying and 1 for selling), the earnings this quarter seem to be around 1.2cr. This of course does not including the one-time membership fee and the yearly fee.

07 Oct 2008 21:29

My learnings from truth...

Teledata Info

Posted by : Bull 2008
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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Dear Skasera

The biggest problem is to accept that I was wrong if we set aside our ego`s only than we can sell shares at respectable level of losses or profits. I know all decsions can`t be right but that is the risk.
Second if I lose in one share than why not shift to other good quality stock where visibility of growth is better.
Averaging in a falling market can be fatal.

Cheers

...

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My learnings from truth...

Posted by : skasera

To Bull 2008 and NRI Investor..

1. Regarding averaging: I brought Dena bank at 36, kept buying till 23, and start selling from 36, sold part, saw 100 and eventually sold at 55. So averaging is good, but most times it backfires. My father who is very old timer considers a period of 3-5 years with constant averaging to get very low cost price. As soon as some stock turn arounds over 5-10 year period, he sells them and brings those with very bad market condition (but good management). Some of his recent picks are textile stocks including Maral Overseas, Malwa Cotton, Indo Rama Synthetics, HPCL, etc. Some of his multibaggers (mostly exited by now) are JK lakshmi, Dalmia Cement, Orient paper, Guj Alkali, India Cement, etc. So averaging is good in a given long term horizon. During panic and extremely bad conditions, it is deadly.

2. I agree TD is not investment grade. If discussion on good bad and ugly is kept aside (many stocks have given 70% cuts but they do not deserve hatred), then single point of poor communication is reason to quit. But then we have entered at various levels from 16 to 66, Now the question is (going back to point 1) of averaging? Do we average at 7? And do we put more money to get back good money? The psychology factor as talked by Mr. Kundu? Point is when money is so short and when you hardly have shares to sell to buy TD, how can you get money to buy more TD?

To each his own.

CHEERS.

07 Oct 2008 21:27

Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Teledata Info

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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Agreed. It needs guts to enter and trade in Stock market.
You may be getting better investment opportunities in the near term. Thanks....

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Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Posted by : pss5588

No sir not all learn. It takes guts. Someone pulling out in 2006 bec he was badly scarred made me take a plunge to see for myself whether i would be singed or scarred. I had not entered stock market till then . But i started with a small capital and have not done badly so far even in the present scenario mainly bec I was aware of and reading about subprime since early 2006 in outlook magazine and was therefore cautious throughout getting in and out and not staying too long for fear the subprime would pop out any minute. Once this is over or steady i will go long term but not now. My maximum holdings are in western india shipyard but average cost is almost nil due to frequent ins and outs.

07 Oct 2008 21:25

Accumulate Ranbaxy - victim of MNC Cartel

Ranbaxy Labs

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 256.00 ( 3.88 % ), NSE: Rs. 256.10 ( 3.75 % )
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yup u are right. even i took a look at the way US stocks are crashing. its heartening to see sharp falls like 15-25% in US stocks. and MON is at its 52 week low there. dsp ml gave a downgrade rating and immediately the ceo of the company gave it back in style by upgrading the guidance. followed by overweight rating by jp morgan and goldman sachs. that shows how strong a company this is. i feel its a steel buy at current levels for long term. yup if it goes down to 1100-1000 levels its only a bonus/discount :) festival offer :) hehe...just kidding. yup the markets are looking scary worldwide. dono what will happen in future also yaar. first time, the situation is looking so gloomy. some people are setting crazy targets like 5k, 8k etc. i am worried ... but long term people need not worry right?
that too people holding bluechips should not panic at all. i feel markets are likely to stabilise in the near future.

swamy.
...

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Accumulate Ranbaxy - victim of MNC Cartel

Posted by : WBuffetBlog

psgs,

Why buy Monsanto India? When you can afford to buy Monsanto Inc on NYSE. LOL..ROFL. The way US stocks melting down, we Indians can now afford buying NYSE listed stocks. Just Kidding..But take it seriously also.

Below 1000, Monsanto is appealing buy, but It may not come down to below 1000, at the most 1100+.

Have you seen, stocks like Castrol, Colgate, GSK Pharma have not come down in this mkt turmoil.

07 Oct 2008 21:24

NUKE Deal & LARSEN and TOUBRO

Larsen

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1008.10 ( -6.94 % ), NSE: Rs. 1008.05 ( -7.00 % )
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Company is worried now about its fresh future orders, as per newspaper report....

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NUKE Deal & LARSEN and TOUBRO

Posted by : DUstocks


You mean 1000 ex-bonus price ! That is quite OK. I`m even prepared for 1000 pre-bonus price ... thank my SHORTS ... unless it gets banned in India too !

07 Oct 2008 21:24

TARGETS AND INDICATORS FOR THE NEXT ONE YEAR

IFCI

Posted by : major_mind
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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hi bubbu it si nice to see you avtive onmmb
kindly write your overal view on mkts at length
also should i buy and add more of ifci at ltp?
rgrds...

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TARGETS AND INDICATORS FOR THE NEXT ONE YEAR

Posted by : bubbu64

Dear Vijay

if ur holding 81 shares of tech mach at 1200 I assume this is right now in a loss position. Given the current mkt scenario for the IT sector the sector is right now going through a very serious crisis of new deals for the next couple of years. I would advise u to not to sell those shares at a loss just bcoz the mkt has gone down. Take a long term view and forget those shares for the time being. Right now the current priority would to make sure not to invest any more in stocks till the mkt finds a bottom. Cahs is king. For now u might have to forget those techmach shares and hold a very long term view on them.

Regards

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