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22 Nov 2008 20:42

A view over TATA TEA from the Eco.Times

Tata Tea

Posted by : kima
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 461.25 ( 0.70 % ), NSE: Rs. 459.85 ( -0.40 % )
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Honorable fellow boarders, M/s. c.ravivarman and chriskb are spot on. They belong to a rare breed of fundamental analysts who recognize value and rightly explains it.

Guests in every message board try to play fowl. Their nefarious underhand business is to malign admirable business by raising baseless aspersions, with a desire to drive down the stock price through scandal and lies. Perhaps they wish to enter the stock at lower levels. Only gullible boarders fall for their tricks.

AS regards Tata Tea the topline is not growing much. The company is not sitting idle. It tries to correct this anomaly through inorganic but logical acquisitions from time to time. They have been successful too. They have plenty of cash in the books and as rightly pointed out by worthy boarders, open to further acquisitions. Tata Tea is in the business of building and owning some well branded FMCG assets. It will pay off handsomely. ...

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A view over TATA TEA from the Eco.Times

Posted by : chriskb

Tata Tea results speak otherwise. They are in great shape.

22 Nov 2008 20:23

Sentiments play

Kamat Hotels

Posted by : kima
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 43.50 ( -9.00 % ), NSE: Rs. 45.45 ( 5.21 % )
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I also see great value in Kamat Hotels, particularly in their Mumbai properties. But haven`t they expanded far and wide by setting up budget hotels? Are these investments going to pay off any time soon?

I am also aware that Kamat has some FCCBs, Damocles` swords for all and sundry who went for it. It is now being denounced as one among the many bull market excesses. Do you know how the FCCB plot is going to develop in this counter?

I very much look forward to your valuable views as my investment in this counter would be hinging on that.

Thanks,

KiMa ...

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Sentiments play

Posted by : nabhosale

Dear Ravi, Kamat Hotel will give at least 3 times return in one years. This hotel is a gem in Indian Hotel sector and will give fantastic returns. You have to just wait for the change in sentiments.

22 Nov 2008 20:18

HEALTHY SIGN

Nagarjuna Fert

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 14.15 ( 0.71 % ), NSE: Rs. 14.15 ( 1.07 % )
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Since market sentiments have improved a bit, current market rate of this share looks attractive for a buy for ST trading....

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HEALTHY SIGN

Posted by : KARUNAS

It is comming in buy mode. Accumulation may be under way and is a better to buy.

22 Nov 2008 20:17

WAKE UP - DEAR

Hind Constr

Posted by : investor11
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 39.80 ( 2.18 % ), NSE: Rs. 39.80 ( 2.05 % )
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Addressed to  gautam56

Due to following reason stock has potential to reach ur target
Short covering as lots of shors exist as of now
RBI likely to pump 20000 crores for infra whre HCC may be beneficary
...

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WAKE UP - DEAR

Posted by : gautam56

Expecting the current relief rally to sustain for some more time and in view of the approaching F&O settlement in the next week - can we not live to see the share price bounce back to atleast 55/- very shortly?
Please comment.

22 Nov 2008 20:15

If babies list now paddy`s with operaters

Teledata Info

Posted by : bababull
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.62 ( -1.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.65 ( -0.88 % )
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Earlier I had theorized that teledata price has been reduced to such ridiculous levels by manipulators so that everyone is at loss and investors will try to make up their loss by selling the new cos to be listed. If promoter paddu lists the cos now when td price is so low, then this theory would be correct.
for example, If one of the babies list at say 100, then I can sell all my holdings in that stock and not only recover my investment in teledata group but also make decent profits and keep all teledata shares and other baby free and hold them for eternity.
Thus small investors will have been shaken out twice :
1) 1st shakeout due to reduction in shares of babies ie they receive half.
2) 2nd shakeout due to small investors exiting on listing date to recover their capital.

If paddu lists the ttsl & tmsl shares after teledata has reached decent value say 50+ , then this theory will prove to be incorrect....

22 Nov 2008 20:13

Fortis Healthcare plans to add 500 beds in FY09

Fortis Health

Posted by : kima
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 63.25 ( 5.68 % ), NSE: Rs. 62.90 ( 5.89 % )
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Yes, yes if none of us buy then eventually we will get this for free, perhaps even with a give away of one share for every two shares purchased. Guests always post us wonderful ideas. May their tribe increase. ...

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Fortis Healthcare plans to add 500 beds in FY09

Posted by : Guest

yes, exit this stock will fall to rs 10 eventually so better to run away now than see money disappear. ipo was 100 + look where we are now even with hardly any float - 75% with promotors....

22 Nov 2008 20:11

Buy for short term gain

Praj Industries

Posted by : investor11
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 54.10 ( 0.56 % ), NSE: Rs. 54.30 ( 1.12 % )
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As per my understading it should reach to 100 by dec end,RK contineously increasing stake...

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Buy for short term gain

Posted by : my_money

It may give good short term gain.

Rgds,

22 Nov 2008 20:08

After BPO arm Now to offload stake in Polaris

Polaris

Posted by : investor11
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 38.00 ( -0.52 % ), NSE: Rs. 37.80 ( -0.66 % )
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Addressed to  rvk41

Thanks rvk41
Sound convincing looks in good shape reported half year EPS of around 7 rs PE comes to 3 ,If Citi does not off load at throw away price(ur message is very categorical on that) ,hence no reason for stock to battered down on this issue
Citi group has holding in HDFC bank and IDFC as well out of that IDFC didinot do good on last trading day....

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After BPO arm Now to offload stake in Polaris

Posted by : rvk41

Dear investor11,

As per the message below the POLARIS is not in trouble, but if Citi Gr goes down the major income from the activity with them may also reduce then the problem to Polaris

"""Jain and his associates hold around 30 percent stake in the IT company. Jain added that he did not have any plan to increase his holdings in Polaris.

According to Srikanth, Citi is a strategic, not a financial investor and hence there is no need to alter the shareholding pattern. Citi is also a major customer of Polaris that contributes around 42 percent of the latter`s revenue.

Unperturbed by the global financial crisis, Srikanth said Polaris` expansion plans were on track and "Our cash and receivables total around Rs.6.38 bn".

The company earlier this month acquired US-based product and component services company SEEC Inc.

He added that Polaris was cooperating with several leading banks for implementing progressive modernisation programmes.

"We have entered South America with a programme in Chile. This will serve as a good reference point for that market. In addition, we have entered southern Europe," Srikanth said.

According to him, the company`s growth prospect is on track. "We are on track with the guidance of 10 percent sequential quarter to quarter growth"""

with regards
rvk41

22 Nov 2008 19:50

ICICIDIRECT not working!!!

ICICI Bank

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 335.55 ( 4.74 % ), NSE: Rs. 334.05 ( 4.55 % )
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Quote
Ans. Yes. You can open more than one account with the same DP. There is no restriction on the number of accounts you can open with a DP.
Unquote
This is from NSDL website.
From it is clear that there is no such restriction on the no. of demat accounts one can open....

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ICICIDIRECT not working!!!

Posted by : blackshirt12

Are you sure??
Somebody told me that one can have maximum five demat accounts..
For IPOs you can apply from one demat a/c only..

22 Nov 2008 19:47

Hero honda down target=580....

Hero Honda

Posted by : vam_aru
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 710.65 ( 0.16 % ), NSE: Rs. 710.35 ( 0.01 % )
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Rashmi,

Expecting a gap up around 75 to 90 points, so one can not say with conviction that it will surely gonna hit 3000, so i would not advice you to buy any calls , but if the market touches 3000 then you can buy the PUTs...

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Hero honda down target=580....

Posted by : rashmi26

thanx,is it wise to buy a call of 2700 or 2800 on monday,and if d nifty reaches 3000 sq off d call and then buy a put.what say???

22 Nov 2008 19:44

sell

GE Shipping

Posted by : kadiyali
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.40 ( 3.42 % ), NSE: Rs. 162.35 ( 2.36 % )
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Considering the fundamentals of this oldest shipping company, your buying at 160 may appear as good investment for a long term outlook, but near term GE Shipping may receive continued hammering to take the share price below 100. The BALTIC DRY INDEX which traces international cargo freight rates, has plunged by more than 90% to 847 from its all time high of 11793 reached in May, and is set to touch its all time low of 843 of Nov 2001. Due to this shipping companies may start posting negative growth in profits, and coupled with the continued general weakness in the market, holding on to this investment has more potential for loss than gain. Rgrds....

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sell

Posted by : monu4u

Hi
I am a small investor. I hv purchased today 200@160/-. Pls let me know what shud i do??? Waiting for reply

22 Nov 2008 19:44

After BPO arm Now to offload stake in Polaris

Polaris

Posted by : rvk41
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 38.00 ( -0.52 % ), NSE: Rs. 37.80 ( -0.66 % )
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Addressed to  investor11

Dear investor11,

As per the message below the POLARIS is not in trouble, but if Citi Gr goes down the major income from the activity with them may also reduce then the problem to Polaris

"""Jain and his associates hold around 30 percent stake in the IT company. Jain added that he did not have any plan to increase his holdings in Polaris.

According to Srikanth, Citi is a strategic, not a financial investor and hence there is no need to alter the shareholding pattern. Citi is also a major customer of Polaris that contributes around 42 percent of the latter`s revenue.

Unperturbed by the global financial crisis, Srikanth said Polaris` expansion plans were on track and "Our cash and receivables total around Rs.6.38 bn".

The company earlier this month acquired US-based product and component services company SEEC Inc.

He added that Polaris was cooperating with several leading banks for implementing progressive modernisation programmes.

"We have entered South America with a programme in Chile. This will serve as a good reference point for that market. In addition, we have entered southern Europe," Srikanth said.

According to him, the company`s growth prospect is on track. "We are on track with the guidance of 10 percent sequential quarter to quarter growth"""

with regards
rvk41
...

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After BPO arm Now to offload stake in Polaris

Posted by : investor11

Dear rvk41
thanks for your comprehensive reply,Citi group has stake in polaris as under
Orbitech Ltd 20,179,606 20.45%
Citibank A/C Orbitech Ltd 22,576,015 22.88 %
That Citi group was planning to sell 110crore which translate to 25 rs a share (current value 38) almost 40% discount at the current price which would not be good for mangement as well share holders like me
Arun Jain has categorically stated that they have right to refusal as first party
It is possible that he may negotiate with Citi to sell at better price provided there are any takers
If not than i hope still Orbitech insist on sell as they need cash at this moment
I bilieve stock is in real trouble as the co
ur opinion pl

22 Nov 2008 19:42

Buy

Deccan Gold

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 15.87 ( 1.80 % )
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I note what you write. Thanks for your views....

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Buy

Posted by : prafulla1001

Let me reply to this question for benifit of all boarders. The company has made application for RP(Reconaissance Permit), PL(Prospecting Lease) and ML(Mining Lease). The process is, over an area first you get RP, then PL and finally ML. Only after ML is sanctioned, you have to obtain other clearances and start the real mining on ground. If you see the annual report of the company, you will find that few (3 or 4) ML have been recommended by state govts. to the GOI. In all other cases, the applications are either at RP or PL stage which will takes years to reach to the mining stage.
So dear boarders, forget the stock for at least 5 years.

22 Nov 2008 19:38

Helping Indian Industrialists, Mr. Prime Minister

Tata Steel

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 160.05 ( 1.27 % ), NSE: Rs. 159.70 ( 1.59 % )
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The issuer will have an option but not a right to buy back the bonds. It is not necessary that bondholder should surrender his bonds to the issuer in case he finds that if surrenders his bonds, he will be a loser. If u can give me an example, I will let u know my view in a better way.
Thanks....

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Helping Indian Industrialists, Mr. Prime Minister

Posted by : kadiyali

As per the suggested proposal, issuer can buy back bonds any time during 15 years life of the bond at premium of 8% per annum. At the same time, holder has a `right` of conversion at average price of share ruling during last 6 months (before issue of such bonds) after 5 years. If before 5 years the issuer does not buy back, and if after 7 years from the issue date, share price goes to 1000, the issuer will be able to raise equity from the market at 900, to buy back bonds even at 56% premium (8x7). For the holder, conversion will be advantgeous considering the share price of 1000. At this stage, whose right will supersed the other?

22 Nov 2008 19:38

Hello Brother! Anil, Mukesh shake hands at Advani meet

Reliance

Posted by : investor11
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1127.35 ( 6.49 % ), NSE: Rs. 1124.35 ( 6.47 % )
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Addressed to  indianstock,  bhusbhac

dear Indianstock and bhusbac
There is very strong speculation floating within circle that Anil and Mukesh joinig hands again(though they were nevre separeted it was just tactical),it is possible in coming days perhaps 28th dec(Dhirubai B`day?) they may announce meregr of RNRL,RPL with RIL,Initialy demeregr has increased their networth now merger would enhance their networth,
If it is true and happens than i would they are great buissness man India has ever produced
Your comment on this speculation pl?...

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Hello Brother! Anil, Mukesh shake hands at Advani meet

Posted by : indianstock

CNN-IBN

It was a meeting that generated a lot of interest both in the industry and the political circles. The Ambani brothers – Anil and Mukesh – came together at a meeting of leading industrialists at Opposition leader L K Advani`s house.


And in a rare moment, the two shook hands for the first time in public after their much publicised fallout.


This family sideshow reportedly happened just before the meeting began.


Anil, who had reached ahead of time was chatting with some invitees when Mukesh arrived.


The presence of both the Ambani brothers was perhaps in sync with the turnout of industry bigwigs to discuss the financial crisis with Advani.


A a three-hour meeting called by Advani, serious concern was expressed by corporate heads over large-scale job losses in sectors like construction, textile and export units.


"All participants felt that the Indian economy was at a serious risk and the economic situation was worsening rapidly," senior party leader and former Finance Minister Yashwant Sinha told reporters after the meeting, attended by 15 prominent industrialists.

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