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29 Sep 2008 10:58

Dear sp.palo, a very good morning to u too. by mortgage, i think u r asking for Loan against property. If my understanding is right about ur query, my dear friend, not many banks \\`ll provide u the facility under current tight liquidity situation. In fact PNB has already stopped the service last week. Even if u get the one, the amount of loan \\`ll not be more than 50-60% of ur flat value. Plz. do note, this loan \\`ll be a costly loan of 14-18% interest rate, depending upon the bank u r transacting with. The loan value \\`ll also depend upon the pay back capacity of the borrower.

Earlier the banks were offering overdraft facility against the property, but now a days it\\`s very rare to find the one.

As it \\`ll be a loan there \\`ll be a regular EMI payment for servicinf the loan.

About the JM basic fund, it\\`s a sectoral/thematic fund, which outperformed all the indices with a decent margin due to its concentrated call & performance of the underlying sector. But the same thing is hammering its performance heavily since january 2008. In fact most of JM funds r down around 45-55%, due to aggressive calls. The reason may be presence of Sandeep Sabharwal (the old SBI guy), within joining the JM MF, performance of all of EQ. schemes changed upwards drastically but the current market melt down has done its every bit to throw the plans of JM out of the gear.

Most of the Eq. funds of JM currently fall under high risk, high return category. If u do have courage to hold ur head firmly on ur shoulders without bothering about the performance of the JM funds in near future, it MAY reward u handsomely.

& it is a big MAY which later on may converts to HAD NOT.

Thanks

Ashal...

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beware of sips in bear market

Posted by : sp.palo

Dear ashalanshu,
Good Morning. DO you have any idea on mortgages ? Suppose the cost of a flat is 25L. How much max the bank will give against mortgage of the flat ? Which bank provides the most ? And listen, how about the JM Basic fund ?

thanks & regards
shakti

29 Sep 2008 08:39

Dear ashalanshu,
Good Morning. DO you have any idea on mortgages ? Suppose the cost of a flat is 25L. How much max the bank will give against mortgage of the flat ? Which bank provides the most ? And listen, how about the JM Basic fund ?

thanks & regards
shakti...

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beware of sips in bear market

Posted by : ashalanshu

Dear emptyvessel, for past 6 months among Eq. fund here is the data u wanted (as per VROL on 26th Sept 2008).
TOP PERFORMERS
1. UTI Pahrma & Healthcare 11.62%
2. Franklin Pharma 8.70%
3. Reliance Pharma 7.58%
4. JM Healthcare Sector 3.60%

Yes the above list definitely shows a pharma sector funds bias, same is the case in actual performance of stocks. Under current meltdown, Pharma & upto some extent FMCG r the only sectors which have performed positive.

Regarding ur NIFTY data, When the over all value of stocks is down across the market, how the funds can be remain unaffected but the good things is that there r funds who have controlled this slide better than market. The data is already available on VROL & other website & u may check the same.
Plz. do note Eq. investing is for long term (10-15-20 & even more years).

Thanks

Ashal

28 Sep 2008 20:21

Insurance providers have decided not to provide group cover any more for mutual funds schemes offering insurance from the 1st of October.
the Insurance Lobby is very strong. They saw that their income is shrinking due to massive shifting of money from Insurance to Mutual Funds offering Free Insurance.
People have realised that ULIPs have high cost, non-flexible, high exit loads, hidden charges and have started shifting to Mutual Funds. The Insurance Players could not stand seeing the big loss staring at them.
Why should you pay 35% commission to Insurance Agent and a paltry 2% to Mutual Fund Agent?.
SEBI has always been favouring Insurance vis a vis Mutual Funds. Mutual Funds cant hire services of an Celebrity while the Insurance Agents can and do this to screw Lakhs of gullible Investors. Shame on IRDA for stopping something which is for the Good for the Investing Public.
Are they not doing a disservice to Investors?. Why is SEBI silent?.
We need to protest this decision by IRDA and ensure a Level playing field for Mutual Funds and Insurance.
If the Mutual Funds should not sell Insurance, well and Good, the Insurance Companies also should not sell ULIPs!!!....

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Fund houses to scrap insurance cum MF products

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The bitter battle between insurance companies and mutual fund houses has taken a dramatic turn. Beginning October 1, mutual fund houses will have to withdraw all products which offer mutual funds with an insurance cover.

28 Sep 2008 20:21

The bitter battle between insurance companies and mutual fund houses has taken a dramatic turn. Beginning October 1, mutual fund houses will have to withdraw all products which offer mutual funds with an insurance cover....

28 Sep 2008 12:01
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Hi, I have invested 20,000 six month back in DSP-ML TaxSaver (G),@ 15.28, now its value became much lesser than the invested amount. What to do? Should I quit or stay and wait, if quit then How?...

27 Sep 2008 20:26


Dear vvrk,

I could get his book on value Averaging today from Crossword. It is an Interesting Book for Informed Investors.

Since this BOOK is witten in American CONTEXT, we may have to slightly modify to suit to Indian Context ( Same Process ).

Thanks for Reference.

P.C.Sharma











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SIP (or) Timing the Market

Posted by : vvrk

Dear Sharmaji,

The book is published by John Wiley & Sons, Inc.

ww w dot wiley dot com

I forgto the name of the store where I bought this book. I think it is Landmark or Crosswords.

Thanks,
Raj

27 Sep 2008 14:39

SIP

Posted by : gullu_123
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How about investing via Reliance RSF sip Insure....

27 Sep 2008 12:34

SIP

Posted by : gullu_123
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How about investing via Reliance RSF sip Insure....

27 Sep 2008 11:59

Two simple rules to my knowledge in prolonged bear phases to all MF investors:

1. Dont discontinue the SIP in panic or frustration. Rather be sincere in its payment date.

2. Average your units ( for lump sum investors ) in existing funds by repurchasing units in every 5% market dips.

regards
shakti...

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beware of sips in bear market

Posted by : ashalanshu

Dear emptyvessel, for past 6 months among Eq. fund here is the data u wanted (as per VROL on 26th Sept 2008).
TOP PERFORMERS
1. UTI Pahrma & Healthcare 11.62%
2. Franklin Pharma 8.70%
3. Reliance Pharma 7.58%
4. JM Healthcare Sector 3.60%

Yes the above list definitely shows a pharma sector funds bias, same is the case in actual performance of stocks. Under current meltdown, Pharma & upto some extent FMCG r the only sectors which have performed positive.

Regarding ur NIFTY data, When the over all value of stocks is down across the market, how the funds can be remain unaffected but the good things is that there r funds who have controlled this slide better than market. The data is already available on VROL & other website & u may check the same.
Plz. do note Eq. investing is for long term (10-15-20 & even more years).

Thanks

Ashal

27 Sep 2008 11:50

Dear emptyvessel, for past 6 months among Eq. fund here is the data u wanted (as per VROL on 26th Sept 2008).
TOP PERFORMERS
1. UTI Pahrma & Healthcare 11.62%
2. Franklin Pharma 8.70%
3. Reliance Pharma 7.58%
4. JM Healthcare Sector 3.60%

Yes the above list definitely shows a pharma sector funds bias, same is the case in actual performance of stocks. Under current meltdown, Pharma & upto some extent FMCG r the only sectors which have performed positive.

Regarding ur NIFTY data, When the over all value of stocks is down across the market, how the funds can be remain unaffected but the good things is that there r funds who have controlled this slide better than market. The data is already available on VROL & other website & u may check the same.
Plz. do note Eq. investing is for long term (10-15-20 & even more years).

Thanks

Ashal...

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beware of sips in bear market

Posted by : emptyvessel

there are three assumptios in the various replies:
i)sips are good for a volatile market. the market in India is not volatile but today it is a downward spiral. if we take nifty closing values on last thursdays of the month the figures from may are 4835,4315,4332,4214,4110. I will be lucky to know of any equity mf which has not shown any negative return during the year.
ii)\\\\

27 Sep 2008 11:34

Dear ankzvohra782, First from ur running list, i hope u have multiple SIPs on different dates as advised so many times here @ MMB.

for ur another large cap fund - sund. select focus & K-30 falls under an aggressive category, Birla Fr'line is relatively a less aggressive fund. U may invest in HDFC Top 200 fund with multiple sip of 1K on different dates.

From ur ongoing SIPs & new one, u r planni g to invest appx. 15K per month, in this case my advise 'll be to go for Liq. + fund & STP route. It 'll be more beneficial to u as u 'll earn more bucks than ur saving bank acct., on ur investment in liq. + fund.

Thanks

Ashal ...

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mutual funds investment

Posted by : ankzvohra782

Dear Ashpot, I have the following query and need your opinion on the same:
I have been invested in the following funds via sips:
1. Reliance Vision(since 2 years, sip od Rs 2000)
2. Reliance Growth(since 1 year, sip od Rs 2000)
3. DSP ML TIGER (since 1 year, sip 2000)
4. SBI Magnum Contra(since 1 year, sip 2000)
5. Franklin India Bluechip( since 2 years, sip rs 2000)
I was not happy with the performance of Rel Vision and Franklin bluechip (esp vision)and so have stopped the respective sips form next month and have made following addations to the foilo:
1. Start SIP Rs 3000 in DSP ML Balanced fund
2. Renew SIP in Magnu m contra for Rs 3000pm
3. Renew Sip in Reliance grwoth sip rs 3000pm
4. Start SIP in DSP ML top 200 rs 2000pm

i am wanting to ad another large cap fund in the folio as i have exited 2 and want to keep a large cap bias to my folio for a lim ited downside: I am confused between Sundaram select focus,birla frontline equity, and kotak 30. I find sundaram select focus to be a little more agressive one. Kindly Give in ur views abt the fund to opt for, or should i select a diversified fund like kotak oppotunity/Hdfc top 200/ kotak opportunity. This will be for an sip of Rs 2000 for 3 years
Best regards
ankit

27 Sep 2008 11:10
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Dear friend, This is the right time to invest thru SIP. Had u quoted ur funds\\` name also it w\\`d be better.

Thanks

Ashal...

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SIP investment

Posted by : Guest

Hi,

I had subscribed to a SIP investment of Rs.5000 / month (Splitted among 4 MF). It started on June 2008. At this current economy stage shall i continue in this or shall i withdraw and put in some Bank RD. Kindly shed some light on this.

Raghavan

26 Sep 2008 20:56

Dear Guest,

Brokerage of Reliance Money is Cheapest Rs. 500 for 5 Lacs = 0.1% )
Try to avoid Shares Trading until you have Excellent Knowledge of Companies.

P.C.Sharma


P.C.Sharma....

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Best Portal for Online Invests. in Shares

Posted by : Guest

Hi Renjan Sir and other respected boarders. I\\`ve been investing via sip and lumpsum during big market crashes in Mutual Funds since a year - 1)Sundaram SelectFocus, 2)DSP top100, 3)HDFC 200, 4)Rel.Growth, 5)HDFC Growth, 6)DSP Tiger, 7)SBI Mag Contra - but now I\\`m planning to try my hands on Online Shares as well. Kindly advise which is the best portal for online investment? ICICI/Rel Money/Karvy Online/Religare /Sharekhan or any other.Kindly advise.

26 Sep 2008 20:25
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Dear Raghavan,

This is the most Appropriate Time to Invest by SIP in Efficiently Managed Equity Mutual Funds till next 1 year or more..

You did not Mentioned names of Funds.

P.C.Sharma



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SIP investment

Posted by : Guest

Hi,

I had subscribed to a SIP investment of Rs.5000 / month (Splitted among 4 MF). It started on June 2008. At this current economy stage shall i continue in this or shall i withdraw and put in some Bank RD. Kindly shed some light on this.

Raghavan

26 Sep 2008 19:16

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Dear gautamlkedia
Out of a total of 3 funds in ur portfolio 2 are small/mid cap funds anmd one is opprotunity fund.Not a healthy sign
Kotak MNC and JP Morgan Smaller Company - both are underperformer, mid and small cap oriented funds,. Better come out of these funds and invest in large cap equity diversified funds viz

DSPML Top 100
HDFC Top 200
Birla Sunlife Frontline Equity
Sundaram Select Focus
Kotak 30
HSBC Equity

Large cap funds should be core holding in ur portfolio( say 60-70%)

After that u can have one Multi cap( DSPML Equity/Magnum contra/ HDFC Equity/ ), One opportunity Fund( Kotal Opp/ DWS Inv Opportunity) and one speciality fund ( Franklin India Eq Income/ DSPML World gold Fund).

You can remain invested in Kotak Opp .Please dont invest In NFO and try to invest thru SIP only

regds

Ashport

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Posted by : gautamlkedia

I have prsently invested Rs.50000.00 in Kotak MNC Fund - Dividend Plan , Rs.25000.00 in JP Morgan Smaller Companies Fund - Dividend Plan & Rs.25000.00 in Kotak Opportunites Fund - Dividend Plan . My duration for investment is 5 to 7 years from now. Please reply
Regards

Shweta Kedia

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