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07 Oct 2008 21:22

Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Teledata Info

Posted by : pss5588
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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No sir not all learn. It takes guts. Someone pulling out in 2006 bec he was badly scarred made me take a plunge to see for myself whether i would be singed or scarred. I had not entered stock market till then . But i started with a small capital and have not done badly so far even in the present scenario mainly bec I was aware of and reading about subprime since early 2006 in outlook magazine and was therefore cautious throughout getting in and out and not staying too long for fear the subprime would pop out any minute. Once this is over or steady i will go long term but not now. My maximum holdings are in western india shipyard but average cost is almost nil due to frequent ins and outs....

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Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Posted by : vkk43

From the present weakness of the market, every new entrant will definitely learn so many things and he would be a little careful in his future strategy. Thanks.

07 Oct 2008 21:21

I am happy to be back on MMB

IFCI

Posted by : novice1000
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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dear raj,

Hyperinflation may not last very long.That will lead to demand destruction.

Hyperinflation can be the result of lesser supply or higher growth.Anyways we are going to witness clear slowdown in the next 18 months.

By mid 2009, inflation will be well under control and we will see clear demand destruction and severe liquidity crunch.

How Indian govt will handle the liquidity crunch in the next fiscal is to be seen?

regards...

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I am happy to be back on MMB

Posted by : raj_tibs

Novice,

I expect the hyper-inflation to start very soon.. There are two reasons for this: one - china has already made its intentions clear - it will focus on growth, and i believe this time it will be led by domestic consumption. two - more and more economies will find USD too risky to hold their reserves in...

Even India is likely to choose growth post-elections, and these two economies are more than enough to lead the world into a hyper-inflation - as early as second half of 2009/2010.

regards

07 Oct 2008 21:21

UTV DISNEY OPEN OFFER @ 860.79

UTV Software

Posted by : dbfcard
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 726.05 ( -1.58 % ), NSE: Rs. 729.00 ( -1.46 % )
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Sir, Please be sure and do not misguide genuine investors. There are people like me who will read your post and follow your advise. From what you have stated This is a 100 % money making machine ( Rs 140 per share ) I think the days of making EASY money are GONE please cross check your date. ...

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UTV DISNEY OPEN OFFER @ 860.79

Posted by : timnox01

Please be informed that the total share holding of individuals is less than 4% of the Capital and hence all the shares tendered by small investors will be readily accepted by Disney which is to buy 20% of the Capital, it is therefore wise to buy in the market and tender in the open offer.

07 Oct 2008 21:20

HDIL loses further ground

HDIL

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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dude, did u see, it has gone down below its bv.
what i said was correct i guess.

swamy.
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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43

Thanks for your views. Probably the weakness in this share may be because of its being in realty sector, which as a whole look bearish.

07 Oct 2008 21:18

Sell ICICI Bank, says Madan

ICICI Bank

Posted by : rajen_bullish
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 485.20 ( -1.07 % ), NSE: Rs. 485.05 ( -1.02 % )
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cutting by 50bps hardly makes any difference.Last month there was a CRR hike of 125bps. cutting to 50bps points is not even half of the last months hike.
Please make sensible discussions here.
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Sell ICICI Bank, says Madan

Posted by : Guest

exit ICICI Bank. Reserve bank to cut CRR by 50 bps is a sign that there is shortage of funds in the system. Bank like ICICI bank is in deep trouble.exit now.............

07 Oct 2008 21:16

RPL`s 2nd refinery to go onstream in Nov.

Reliance Petro

Posted by : sankarcj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 126.90 ( 2.09 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.95 ( 2.17 % )
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Technical analyst C.J.Mathews sankarathil,MBA is positive on RPL. He said strong support level at 120. He denied the argument of falling further from this level. He said the RPL will cross Essaroil in the bounceback rally.He promised that RPL will outperform from January 2009 and will see a high fly on March 2009....

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RPL`s 2nd refinery to go onstream in Nov.

Posted by : IT_Bulls

RPL to announce the quarterly results on 28-October.

07 Oct 2008 21:15

My learnings from truth...

Teledata Info

Posted by : skasera
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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To Bull 2008 and NRI Investor..

1. Regarding averaging: I brought Dena bank at 36, kept buying till 23, and start selling from 36, sold part, saw 100 and eventually sold at 55. So averaging is good, but most times it backfires. My father who is very old timer considers a period of 3-5 years with constant averaging to get very low cost price. As soon as some stock turn arounds over 5-10 year period, he sells them and brings those with very bad market condition (but good management). Some of his recent picks are textile stocks including Maral Overseas, Malwa Cotton, Indo Rama Synthetics, HPCL, etc. Some of his multibaggers (mostly exited by now) are JK lakshmi, Dalmia Cement, Orient paper, Guj Alkali, India Cement, etc. So averaging is good in a given long term horizon. During panic and extremely bad conditions, it is deadly.

2. I agree TD is not investment grade. If discussion on good bad and ugly is kept aside (many stocks have given 70% cuts but they do not deserve hatred), then single point of poor communication is reason to quit. But then we have entered at various levels from 16 to 66, Now the question is (going back to point 1) of averaging? Do we average at 7? And do we put more money to get back good money? The psychology factor as talked by Mr. Kundu? Point is when money is so short and when you hardly have shares to sell to buy TD, how can you get money to buy more TD?

To each his own.

CHEERS....

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My learnings from truth...

Posted by : Bull 2008

Dear skasera

The cost of educating self in markets are sometimes very bitter and painful. TD was never an investment grade stock and holding to such deliveries was the worst thing one could do in stock markets.
It was just that some boarder here with vested interested said all good things about the stock.

The worst thing in the markets is when you start to learn that potato`s are costier than stock that you are holding. This has happened even with the best of stocks like Tata Steel, unitech, Bharti, SAIL and may be many more but the difference is in the quality of your holding. Only quality stock can buck the trend and stand up tall but no one know`s the destiny of stocks like TD.
But as always better late than never.

Cheers

07 Oct 2008 21:12

I am happy to be back on MMB

IFCI

Posted by : novice1000
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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dear raj,

yeah i got it now.We are actually on the verge of entering in to hyperinflation cycle.As you rightly said, the entire world will have to pay for Ben`s and Paulson`s actions.

regards...

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I am happy to be back on MMB

Posted by : raj_tibs

Hi Novice,

I think the same way... I said India will be best prepared to deal with hyperinflation if it does not cut rates in a hurry... What US is doing is a recipe for hyperinflation - stalled for now due to credit crunch and deleveraging... but the world will have to pay for what Ben and Paulson are up to now at a later date...

regards

07 Oct 2008 21:11

Market fall will end by October end :C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA

Reliance Petro

Posted by : sankarcj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 126.90 ( 2.09 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.95 ( 2.17 % )
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Technical analyst C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the media that the fall of market will end by October last.He added that the fall will be limited to 11000 levels.He denied the arguments of falling markets to 10000 levels. He is positive on Indian Market and see an uptrend from November 2008....

07 Oct 2008 21:11

Q2 Results on 15th Oct....Expectations

Geojit Financia

Posted by : My Multibaggers
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 30.10 ( -0.82 % ), NSE: Rs. 29.95 ( -0.66 % )
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Expected net profit is Rs.7.80 crores.

Expect Rs.20/- to Rs.25/- level in short term. Share is good for long term.

Take the best decisions....

07 Oct 2008 21:11

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

IFCI

Posted by : major_mind
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 32.65 ( -0.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 32.60 ( -0.15 % )
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dear lifayon
it is long time since we shared messegs
what is your say now on the overal mrkt condition
will take along long time to recover or will it b better than other global mrkets?
please post your best informations \ news
cheers` regrsd`
and do yoy stil hold geodesic and ifci in the same quantity or sold some? please reply...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : lifaylon

Well markets are still in fear the PN-note and CRR-cut never will help in near term
first call will be done at Infosys results this friday from which markets will take a cue and that will be negative guidance for sure
Enter markets after this plays-out
by 20th-oct most cracks will play-out world over in all markets

07 Oct 2008 21:10

Buy Growth Business-INOX Leisure

INOX Leisure

Posted by : mannish
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 56.30 ( -1.92 % ), NSE: Rs. 56.90 ( -1.73 % )
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Any investor who believes in growth business should get into INOX Leisure as its a business which have tremendous growth potential irrespective of any slowdown. At current level of 55+ its available at dirt cheap rate. Currently the stock is not performing well due to market slowdown but once its gets over from this it could give very excellent return in the long run. So very strong buy is recommended.

Regards,

Manish Bothra,
Kolkata....

07 Oct 2008 21:09

sell target 300

Bombay Dyeing

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 252.00 ( -16.32 % ), NSE: Rs. 251.85 ( -16.52 % )
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first try to find out how many acres of land Bombay dyeing is holding. even i am interested to know their land bank. then lets see whether we can buy or not. can u work with me. i will help u in analysing this stocks true value. i feel we can buy at current levels, but let us first try to value their land bank. can anybody help us in knowing howmuch land bank this company holds?

swamy.
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sell target 300

Posted by : EMCEE

Dear `guest`
Can U plse share with our boarders as to what is the next support and resistence: most, like me, who bought around Rs500/ must have got stuck: can I buy at these levels ie250/-

07 Oct 2008 21:07

Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Teledata Info

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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From the present weakness of the market, every new entrant will definitely learn so many things and he would be a little careful in his future strategy. Thanks. ...

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Down Stock Market Loss too much how to recover huge loss

Posted by : pss5588

TWO OLDIES TRYING TO SCORE A GOAL.

Life is indeed boring without the ups and downs justlike the MARKETS. Every jolt teaches a new lesson to the learner and steels him to face greater challenges ahead. goodnight vkkji.

07 Oct 2008 21:06

My learnings from truth...

Teledata Info

Posted by : Bull 2008
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 7.82 ( -2.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 7.75 ( -3.13 % )
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Dear skasera

The cost of educating self in markets are sometimes very bitter and painful. TD was never an investment grade stock and holding to such deliveries was the worst thing one could do in stock markets.
It was just that some boarder here with vested interested said all good things about the stock.

The worst thing in the markets is when you start to learn that potato`s are costier than stock that you are holding. This has happened even with the best of stocks like Tata Steel, unitech, Bharti, SAIL and may be many more but the difference is in the quality of your holding. Only quality stock can buck the trend and stand up tall but no one know`s the destiny of stocks like TD.
But as always better late than never.

Cheers...

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My learnings from truth...

Posted by : skasera

Some boarders want words of encouragement. I cannot motivate but I can definitely share my views on stock market investments. (solely personal views and every one should take his/her own informed decision).

1. Book profits/losses at defined intervals/limits. [This financial year, I have booked small profits on all trades so far and that is tidy sum. What I did not do was book losses and there is heavy pile of losses ~50% portfolio]. Nonetheless, wherever I could book profit, I am better off as those shares are significantly lower now.

2. Dont be greedy. In 2008 Jan when some smart ones were exiting, I did borrow small sums of money from my relatives to invest. Needless to say most of that is now 1/3rd its value. Thus, in new financial year, I have still invested 25% of my savings in stocks yet invested also in PPF, pre-paid my loans, have nearly 0 credit card dues, paid all obligations till march 2009 towards my family members etc. Thus, savings till march 2009 can be systematically put in equitites provided I wish to do so and only small part is now put in equities has suffered losses.

3. Herd is not necessarily right. In deep periods of skepticism is money to be made. Only problem is that you cannot time the bottom. So, small amounts systematically is ok. No problem sitting in cash either.

4. Quality and size pays. Better to stay with quality and size. Small amounts can be put in stocks like TD. But not vice versa where you have only one stock and that is TD.

5. Dont average. One good thing I have done this year is not average. Because let us say I buy 1K TD at 30 and then buy 1K TD at 18, then even at 23, I have a loss. So, I may not sell. Better to buy some other share at low levels and when market rallies, sell that share.

6. Keep your costs and liabilities low. Always consider worst case scenario and see what can happen during that time. For such times, keep some buffer and optimize your living costs and have minimum liabilities.

7. Last but not the least, every experience in life teaches us something (even at monetary costs). What we should aim is

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