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05 Dec 2008 19:56

Yes there is a distinct possibility of loosing another 20%.Heaven help us.. but as we stay in this range it is becoming more and more evident that it is a break down we are nearing and not a break out.. I DO HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG.
NIGHTOWL...

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Do you believe that mkts will crash 20-30% from here?

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05 Dec 2008 19:56
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A fairly routine operation in the markets the world over ... hardly fit for being labelled as a new game !...

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A Beautiful Game

Posted by : alokvarshney52

A beautiful game is being played on Dalal Street. Paticipants are FII, HNI, DII & Retail investors. First category of participants tries hard to show strength in particular stocks so that second category is attracted to it. Once the second category starts buying these stocks, First category exits from those stocks. Similarly third and fourth category are also trying hard to sell their holdings. In this fashion a loop is created. In this game fourth category i.e. retail investors is the weakest one because it does not have the power of money(HUGE) to make a beautiful show of its holdings. So, ultimately, it is the fourth category which is defeated by the other three in this beautiful game. Any taker for this theory????

05 Dec 2008 19:31

Dear Nodi.K
thanx for your reply and views
Look at these politicians inspite of so much has happened in Mumbai and public hate against them they are putting same show for maharashtra CM
I wish gov and in peticular PM would act swiftly to save Indian market....

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Market to see carnage worse than Oct ???

Posted by : NODIK

Dear investor11,
Firstly regarding his view on mumbai carnage
I am not in line with his logic & few reactions on mumbai attacks by terrorists. It seemed like , some sort of brief from some where, of playing down the gigantic lapse by our govt or NSA`S to soften the outrage of general public against our politicians.
As shanker sharma said.. `what the world will think of us`.. on Shobha des & others( may be he might have said offhand .. but that is not the mood now)
hard talk on what`s going on in mumbai & tirade against ugly politicians.. he seemed too be pissed off & tried to xplain in a manner... that it wasnt right to wash dirty linnen in public.
I dont think the public was saying anything worse,, which the foreigners were not already knowing about OUR POLITICIANS. They know our country better than we do Shanker bhai & dont forget My father was born a slave under british India & I DONT WANT MY grand child to repeat the same words.
Secondly
His prediction regarding a oct like jolt cannot be ruled out. I am with him on mkt plunge in dec jan.

regds
nodi..k

05 Dec 2008 19:12

Market can crash by mentioned percentage of 20-30% from here. Target level for market is between 6000-7000 levels. It will come sooner or later. But it has to come. There are no technical supports at 2650/2630/2550 as analysts are advocating. But it is sure that there strong resistance between 2800-2850 levels. Thus there is no support downwards for our market except just small resilence at levels of 2600/2500 because of lot of put positions at those strike price. These analysts are not experts as they change their views overnight and they are not reliable at all. View should be strong and they should stick to their views. Today they were telling that there is resistance at 2800-2850 which is not expert view as it is known to everyone and it may be psycological resistance rather technical. People sell heavily at those levels which indicates that if market expectations are not met tommorow then market may not go up above 2850 levels for few weeks. It can fall towards 1880 (nifty) before climbing up....

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Do you believe that mkts will crash 20-30% from here?

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Dear Boarders,

Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.

-MMB Messenger

05 Dec 2008 18:55

You may probably be right, I am not making a prediction here.

I remember last year when Goldman Sachs first predicted a level of $80 & then $ 150 for oil, few believed them at fist, but they were right on both occasions, but then they predicted oil at $200 & everybody seemed to believe them. but they were proved wrong.

Now SS has been right about a bearish outlook more than once, few believed him then, now most seem to agree with him. Maybe it is time for him to be proved wrong.

And then there is the old saying `buy when everybody is selling & sell when everybody is buying`....

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Do you believe that mkts will crash 20-30% from here?

Posted by : kadiyali

Yes, it is very much certain. 20% from the current level will be Dec low & 30% from the current level will be Jan low.

05 Dec 2008 18:55

Dear alokvarshney52,

If retail investors have understood the GAME that goes in the DALAL Street or Wall Street, then it is good to note such behaviour from Retail investors who have their SIZE as an advantage in this DIRTY Game of Stock Market!

Gud luk & happy investing! :)...

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Retail investors exiting on rallies

Posted by : alokvarshney52

If we analyse the trading pattern with volumes on various counters, then it seems that retail investors are selling on every rally even from good counters. This way they are going to lose. Money can be earn from equities if we have enough patience and we exit from fundamentally bad scrips. It is time to invest in good scrips. Once parliament elections are over, I think our market will definitely take bullish direction.

05 Dec 2008 18:51

alokvarshney52-The ultimate"Buck"is passed on to The Retail Investor!!...

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A Beautiful Game

Posted by : alokvarshney52

A beautiful game is being played on Dalal Street. Paticipants are FII, HNI, DII & Retail investors. First category of participants tries hard to show strength in particular stocks so that second category is attracted to it. Once the second category starts buying these stocks, First category exits from those stocks. Similarly third and fourth category are also trying hard to sell their holdings. In this fashion a loop is created. In this game fourth category i.e. retail investors is the weakest one because it does not have the power of money(HUGE) to make a beautiful show of its holdings. So, ultimately, it is the fourth category which is defeated by the other three in this beautiful game. Any taker for this theory????

05 Dec 2008 18:49

rajesh_chabria, petrol/diesel price cuts from midnight today....

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : rajesh chhabria

when is the rate cut effective in the bunks

Regards

05 Dec 2008 18:46

A beautiful game is being played on Dalal Street. Paticipants are FII, HNI, DII & Retail investors. First category of participants tries hard to show strength in particular stocks so that second category is attracted to it. Once the second category starts buying these stocks, First category exits from those stocks. Similarly third and fourth category are also trying hard to sell their holdings. In this fashion a loop is created. In this game fourth category i.e. retail investors is the weakest one because it does not have the power of money(HUGE) to make a beautiful show of its holdings. So, ultimately, it is the fourth category which is defeated by the other three in this beautiful game. Any taker for this theory???? ...

05 Dec 2008 18:35

when is the rate cut effective in the bunks

Regards...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : kadiyali

Kushal, I will be able to come to a definite conclusion regarding Monday`s behaviour of nifty only on Saturday evening, as some announcements from Govt are awaited by the market. Already petrol price is cut by Rs 5 and diesel by Rs.2 against yesterday`s expectation of Rs 10 & 3. So wait for a day, since all that you can do is only on Monday morning. Thanks.

05 Dec 2008 18:26

Kushal, I will be able to come to a definite conclusion regarding Monday`s behaviour of nifty only on Saturday evening, as some announcements from Govt are awaited by the market. Already petrol price is cut by Rs 5 and diesel by Rs.2 against yesterday`s expectation of Rs 10 & 3. So wait for a day, since all that you can do is only on Monday morning. Thanks....

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Kushal

Kadiyali sir,

Hats off to you.. you rightly priticted that Nifty might close - 50 or so... and look what happens its down -74.. (Whn ever1 thought it would be again BULLISH DAY)

As adivsed by you n other esteemed boarder (bear)... i squared off my Put around 50.

Futher out of greed i bought 2 Calls of 2500 @ 110.. closing around 101.. I got influenced on hearing n reading that BUMPER ANNOUNCEMENTS expected and rally till 3200 - 3400 next week.

Sir what do u think.. will ther be some kind of a bounce on Monday.. or will it be GAP DOWN from the start to end.

Do i squareoff my Calls and straigty away buy PUTS.

Awaiting your reply.
Regards,

Kushal.

05 Dec 2008 18:06

Hello investor11,
Yes I read his statements on the net and he remains to be bearish at such low levels also. Remember, he was one amongst few who had predicted sensex in four figures many months back. Since, he was right at that time, we have every reason to still believe me. At least I do. I also feel , we have lots of downside still left. take care
lovemeall26...

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Market to see carnage worse than Oct ???

Posted by : investor11

Shankar Sharma the most accurate projector analyst of thais year and the biggest bear does it again
In cnbc channel he has repoerted saying late dec and jan market to see very big fall bigger than what we have seen in oct
This he attributed this to expected poor earning by corporate
Please put your valuable opinion on this to help boarders to save their hard earn money

05 Dec 2008 18:04

Hello anju,
Yes you will notice, my nifty levels are hitting bang on target everyday. I am happy, that the same is helping you out so much. I knew we would fall today and had smelt the rat yesterday only and also mentioned about it on my homepage. I had given resistance at 2830 and see high of the day is 2821. Howz that. Now since, we did not clear 2830, we have to see the downside first now. take care
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : polavarapuad

Hello Lovemeall sir, your levels worked wonderfully today and were like a guiding star for me. Wish we can clear 2830 tomorrow. Regards, Anju.

05 Dec 2008 18:01

Hello prakash,
I am totally out of time to write many replies out here on the boards. Am very busy with my charts/research/family/job etc. However, I have been regularly updating my homepage with my nifty levels which are hitting bulls eye as per plan. 3050 was on the cards if nifty today on friday would have closed above 2830. Since, it did not, now it looks far.
take care
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Guest

Dear lovemeall,


Please continue posting for the benefit of traders like me. Your analysis is really helpful.. is 3050 on nifty still on???

Regards,

Prakash

05 Dec 2008 17:56

Hello yogi,
Infrastructure and banks were rallying on expected package by our FM on saturday. It was only natural that they would rally. However, I sold my realty stocks today in profits as am expecting fall to start from monday. You say markets will fall from 3250, I say we fall from todays high of 2821 as had given resistance yesterday only at 2830 on my homepage, take care
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Guest

Hi lovemeall and hindlever

we saw some infrstructure stock like IVRCL, PUNJ, REL INFRA AND LT, ntpc

getting good support.

seems some buying going

operator has news and expect 15 to 20 % rally

but then 3250 is big resistence

may be market will fall from there.

reg

Yogi

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