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07 Oct 2008 12:32

Dear All..!
Market looks now quite stable.
chintu ka magic chalega kya..!!!!?????...

07 Oct 2008 12:32

It seems that we have made a temporary bottom at 3600 for the Nifty and 11800 for the sensex. Certain stocks available right now are quite cheap and worth buying for the short term gain and could also be purchased to hold on for the long term. RPL at about 120 to 125. JP Associates at only about 100. Essar oil at about 130 and Cairn at about 165 to 170. ...

07 Oct 2008 12:31

WoWji,

The joke is that ,Gordon Mcbroon came up with this idea after his famous peck at Carla Bruni`s Cheek where he ended up looking like a boar taking a bite off a wild melon. He decided it was time to get some free classes in romance (ROFL) and ordered the spying.
cheers
ramji...

In reply to:

Nuke Deal Sets Ball Rolling.......

Posted by : radhika_nandlal

RAMGE,

Britan to spy on all emails and phone calls... careful.... I dont want to be under them again....

07 Oct 2008 12:30

You are right!
Many analyst are seeing more pain in markets and all that stuff...
Well when markets rallied from 14000 to 21000, they dint know that, when it fell from 21000 to now 11000, they dint know that, only after a mayhem has happened or a rally has already took place they come out boldly and talk,
The best part of market is, it never lets anyone know what exactly is the bottom or what exactly is the High, these analyst only brief as to what they feel is right, there are tons of people on MMB billion times better than those analysts,
Looking at the markets and using simple research, its oversold, they are talking of caputalation and talking of 3200, and if markets rally from taking 3600 as the bottom they say see nifty at 4200, well, one needs to do a self research taking cue`s from these TA, FA...
Markets will surprise everyone as it has been doing always, for one cannot forsee what is it next move, no one knows what is the bottom or what could be the high, or when could we see a rally or a fall.
Follow your own research, moreover follow your heart and your own decisions.
Regards ...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : snvaish

I find that now suitable buying time may be from 20.10.2008 and onwards at every dips. I don`t see much fall after this date.

07 Oct 2008 12:18

hi sachin, things are going as predicted :( Now below 12k!
I have totally avoided looking at my Pf since it will cause more agony! As my losses more than 3L now! I abs dont know what will happen but still everyone agree that LT is good for our market. All we can do is hope. For time being i will simply wait. But i dont think the global markets can recover from this for a year or two!...

In reply to:

Its time to prepare shopping list guys !

Posted by : sachin14

in a few days time, I am sure we will get some shares for FREE!! :-)
and we need to pay extra amount for some of the shares we have in our PF to still keep them with us. :-(

07 Oct 2008 12:07

Gold technical suggesting that gold has entered the downward trend & would see lower bottom.
In Jan. 1975, Gold was at near USD 200 per ounce.Then in Dec 1978, it closed near USD 250 per ounce. From Dec. 1978 to Dec 1979, it shown the greatest ever upside in one year to USD 750 per ounce. It was global boom time for gold. Then immediately subsequent year dec 1980-1981, it saw sharpest fall from USD 750 to USD 300, biggest ever decline. It was a global depression time. After that it spiked little bit but not sufficient, it touched USD 500 per ounce in Dec 1982.
After that Gold has shown range bound kind of movement which ranged from USD 250-USD 500 per ounce from Dec. 1982 to Dec 2002. So for 20 years, almost double the investment lets you think whether gold is safe investment or not. Every 4 years it saw bottom of USD 300-250. after dec 1982
Now from Dec 2002, Gold is seeing boomtime rally from USD 350 per ounce to USD 700 per ounce in Dec 2006. Again after Dec 2006, it saw boom time & touched USD 950 per ounce & above. Now, it has slipped to below USD 800 per ounce. Now gold has entered the global depression syndrome, the same period was seen Dec 1980-Dec 1981. & after that it remained hardly investor\`s pick for next 20 years. Exactly same technicals & global slowdown depressive mood suggest that gold will see bearish movements for atleast next 10-15 years, say not more than 20 years. If US conditions along with Europe remains bad for another 2 years then , I must say years cant be enough.
GOLD has excellent support at USD 350-USD 450 per ounce as it remained there for more than a decade from Dec 1986 to Dec 1998. If conditions go worst in terms of Us employment, bank failures, Europe depression followed by US & again asian depression followed by Europe then even most gold favoured countries wouldnt save the long term gold depression. In worst scenario Gold shouldnt go below USD 250 per ounce. Gold always take slowdown effect later compared to Equities, other commodities & even other investment horizons like real estate. So, be cautious....

07 Oct 2008 12:03

Dear Observr,

some bell rang few months back when i got one msg from you on the short futures,, More bells are ringing now ..LOL..

Welcome back the Investigator :-).

Cheers...

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SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days

Posted by : Observr

Dear Goldchest
An id of the great person KaliD ji= amarasgaonkar

Now this is the third group formed(on this forum) on the anvil of multiple ids by one person viz.:

First: J
Second: K
And now third another K

Keep it up

- Keen Observer...

07 Oct 2008 12:03

Dear Kalidas, Thanks for your detailed reply....

In reply to:

Paulson`s Poison & Antidote

Posted by : Kalidas

for tally

Profit is yours if you take it. Book the profit in scrips in which you are in money and buy back same scrips in violent correction.

If RBI eased CRR, it is good thing. They should reduce rates rather than reducing CRR - reducing CRR does not enlarge credit, as most banks in India are anticipating tight money conditions ahead in inter bank market.

You should remain long on Gas stocks like Indraprashtha Gas, GAIL, GSPL, Petronet, and State Owned Refineries, Buy LIC HSG FINANCE when it corrects more in violent crash. When there are no bids for such counters, is the time to buy them at 20% lower circuits

I am not bullish for RIL - as I had mentioned before, this stock is hyped up and its real value should not be above Rs 900. It has long way to go down - but do not listen to me. Others were telling me that it will never go down and see it is collapsing.

Not because of fundamentals, but the shares of RIL must have been pledged by the promoters for their various projects. If the share value go down, they will get margin calls and if they can not meet thousands of crores of margin calls, their shares will be simply sold off in the market. That will cause the market to fall also because of their index weighting

Kalidas, Hong Kong
6-10-2008

07 Oct 2008 12:01

Dear Goldchest
An id of the great person KaliD ji= amarasgaonkar

Now this is the third group formed(on this forum) on the anvil of multiple ids by one person viz.:

First: J
Second: K
And now third another K

Keep it up

- Keen Observer...
...

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SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days

Posted by : goldchest

Bhai Sahab,

Where were you all these days?
Why so many changes in nick?
Hope all is well at your end.
Regards!

Goldchest.

07 Oct 2008 11:59

I find that now suitable buying time may be from 20.10.2008 and onwards at every dips. I don`t see much fall after this date. ...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Guest

Sir, please give your views on market. It would be very beneficial for us if you`ll post more frequently.

Regards

07 Oct 2008 11:58

Now the third group formed(on this forum) on the anvil of multiple ids by one person viz.:

First: J
Second: K
And now third another K

Keep it up

- Keen Observer...

In reply to:

SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days

Posted by : amarawargaonkar

Dear Lalit,
Dont blame for the loss when we dont praise any for the profits.
Simple.
Listen, always do your own study and then invest.
It is always better to take our own decision.
Cool Down this is only going to make things worse for you.
Regards,
amarawargaonkar

07 Oct 2008 11:57

Gud to see that ppl understand the underlying human psychology that go in market... true for any market!

Oil has cracked beautifully... well below 90 USD... As always, no BS expert is talking about that now! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)...

In reply to:

At what Nifty level will you invest fresh money?

Posted by : me2_4india

No Mr. Guest It depends on what side of fence u are, If somebody is already long with losses he wud vote I wud buy immediately, If somebody is short he wud say I wud buy below, If somebody is having no positions but want to go long then only he wud say that I am going to buy at 2000.

07 Oct 2008 11:54

Hey pkk07,

Gud to see that those numbers from you! :)

Your analysis seems to be bang on target for current situations! :)

GAME is interesting!

Gud luk & happy investing! :)...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : pkk07

We may find support at or above 3500 and see a bounce back to about 4000. If that happens, assume that the final bottom is still away.

If on the other hand we fall to 2800-3200 now, that will be the final bottom.

07 Oct 2008 11:48

We may find support at or above 3500 and see a bounce back to about 4000. If that happens, assume that the final bottom is still away.

If on the other hand we fall to 2800-3200 now, that will be the final bottom....

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Aha sd3,

Some days are like that... :)

Just need to watch or read some BS news at times to understand evergreen random market behavior! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

07 Oct 2008 11:48

Yep sp.palo.

Sentiments at times PLAY key role resulting in BAD decisions most of the time! :)

BullShit theory do talk about sentiments for the random market behavior at times! :)

--
BullShit Theories Rule:
Bottomline fact is that Market is RANDOM.
Since market is random, everyone tries to come with a `nice` theory to explain the RANDOMNESS. Be it fundamental theory or technical theory or sentimental theory. For some strange reasons, most people will make up elaborate theories about what is going on in the markets.

The media are always trying to explain the market even though they know nothing about the market. :) If you have noticed, all theories talks excessively on what is happening or has happened. Not much space or talks is about what is going to happen! :)

Price can go UP or DOWN without a valid reason. Still, media will come up with nice theories to explain the fall or rise.

Remember: Stock market in the end is a GAME of REAL Money.
--

Gud luk & happy investing! :)...

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Sentiment Analysis

Posted by : sp.palo

Hope BSR is listening.

Besides TA and FA, SA ( sentiment analysis ) should be there as a part of the game.

SA not only specifies the mental behavior of investors but also the dirty tricks of the trade followed by HNIs to trap small investors.

regards
shakti

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