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Market Outlook - Short Term
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In actual term, those stocks are worthless now.. Papers with Zero Value unless some change take place to ensure that those companies do not close ! :) May be, who knows, Buffet will propose a way to own those worthless companies now! Hope against Hope for those BUY and HOLD investors (FAKE LT investors) :)
Gud luk & happy investing! :) :)
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down more than 80% in a single tradingday
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fmcgbites
its now down 90%, may be 99% today HA HA 
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Looking at the chart and data, I doubt that we will see 4650+ level. That is why, I just \\`wish\\` for those Long Term iinvestors! :) In Nifty, the way trader has taken positions, it seems that there are many BLUE CHIP companies whose stock seems to tumble soon! :) :)
Looking at Fannie and Freddie, BUY and HOLD investors (FAKE LT investors without any homework) need to learn some early warning signs as Buffet wrote some time back that he exited those stock way back in 2001 and GAME is over for those two! :)
Gud luk & happy investing! :) :)...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : ank1977
4650 for nifty is a crucial level to watch, if nifty manages to close above for 2 consecutive sessions, one can c the level of 4800. All the best.
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Stock beta calculation measures a stock’s volatility, the degree to which its price sways and moves as related to the overall market. In other words, it can measure the risk of a particular investment and/or sector in relationship to the current market trends/conditions.
Stock beta calculation is used to calculate the volatility of a stock or security in comparison to the whole market. For instance, if you wish to invest in a particular stock you may be interested not just in how it is currently performing but also in how it has fared over the years. That information is likely to help you make a better informed decision.
A Stock Beta Calculation of 1 indicates a strong correlation between an individual stock and the market direction. A Stock Beta Calculation of greater then 1 indicates that the price of the given security tends to move in a manner more volatile then the market. Meanwhile a Stock Beta Calculation of less then 1 means that a stock/security or sector moves in a manner less volatile then the market.
Negative Stock Beta Calculation - A beta less than 0 - which would indicate an inverse relation to the market - is possible but highly unlikely. Some investors used to believe that gold and gold stocks should have negative betas because they tended to do better when the stock market declined, but this hasn't proved to be true over the long term.
Stock Beta Calculation of 0 - Basically, cash has a beta of 0. In other words, regardless of which way the market moves, the value of cash remains unchanged (given no inflation).
Stock Beta Calculation between 0 and 1 - Companies with volatilities lower than the market have a beta of less than 1 (but more than 0).
Stock Beta Calculation of 1 - A beta of 1 represents the volatility of the given index used to represent the overall market, against which other stocks and their betas are measured.
Stock Beta Calculation greater than 1 - This denotes a volatility that is greater than the broad-based index.
There are several ways in which you can calculate beta
#1. Using Historical Data - This can be done if you use the Bloomberg and Value Line data.
#2. Using Time Frame - This is when the stock comparison is made over a number of years say two to five years. Bloomberg uses a default of two years. Baseline and ValueLine use 5 years data and their data is updated weekly and quarterly respectively.
#3. Using An Index - Most people use the S&P 500 Index. In fact, Bloomberg and Baseline use this method while ValueLine use the NYSE Index method.
#4. Using Calculations - This can be achieved by using a regression on the weekly prices for the stock or by using percentage of changes of the index and stock and applying the formula to it.
The formula for the Beta of an asset within a portfolio is
B= Cov(ra,rv)/Var(rp)
where ra measures the rate of return of the asset and rp measures the rate of return of the portfolio of which the asset is a part.
So does calculation of beta for stock really represent the volatility of a stock? Perhaps not, although it is helpful in providing insight into the fluctuations in the return of stock vary with index. To really gauge the risk of a stock or portfolio, it's perhaps best to examine the volatility directly by looking into how much the value of the stock changes over the period of a month or more....
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Now some veiw on Markets -
As predicted by RN for Monday 8th Sept 2008, Dow is showing weakness, Nasdaq almost flat. In RNs words, Nifty was sold off in a rally today. Thats true, not only weakness in last hour of trade reflects this but also a fact that although FIIs were net buyers, infact FII open intrest has fallen by 8462 contracts in Nifty Futures. (OI, although increased in Nifty options, stock futures and stock options). HLN and Lovermeal's predictions seem more appropriate, that if Nifty is unable to cross 4650 conviencingly, next target will be well below. I expect Nifty to be range bound between 4200 - 4600, but with occasional gap ups and downs in Sept 2008. I have not yet gone through put call details, but as I observed in morning trade, there was huge Call writing at 4600 to 5000 CE, indicating these levels to be huge resistances going up. With regard to today's trade, I believe, most big players have just booked profits or covered their shorts or gone long. Not many dared to short today with impending Europe and US cues. I think tomorrow might be altogether a different story, fresh shorts might come back, inspite of falling crude (markets actually had factored in 105 $ on last Tuesday itself) and thus now crude can be a trigger only if it goes below 100$. Please do not trade based on my market views, I am neither TA nor FA, just a keen market watcher. (Please dont bombard me with TA or FA querries, I get scared...otherwise also I do not believe in much posts)Cheers and regards......
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
akkbatra
Sorry for cut message...Reposted
Dear RN and pkjattking,
Please let me interfere, RN is right to some extent about overlapping in Punjabis and sindhis. Like Punjabis, Sindhi is one whose origin has been in Sindh. Sindhi basically is local language. Anybody speaking Sindhi is recognised as a Sindhi. So like bengalis, Sindhis are Hindu Sindhis and Muslim Sindhis. About 90% Hindu Sindhis migrated to mainland India after undivided India's partition based on religious grounds in 1947. In undivided India, Punjab and sindh were neghbouring proviences, hence there was much social and religious interactions. Guru Nanak Dev had profound influence deep into Sindh. Sindhis, I mean Hindu Sindhis, till today worship Gurusahib and Granthsahib, in their temples known as Tikanna, parallel to any Gurudwara, but less spacious. There, the priest, daily reads Gurugranthsahib and special prayers are held on all festivals. Sindhis all over India, also celebrate Guru Nanak Jayanti with great enthusiasm. Also modern age Punjabi Gurus like Radhaswami, Nirankari etc have a great Sindhi followership in India. Many surnames are common in both like Batra, Ahuja, Sachdeo, Punjabi, Bhatia, Raheja etc to name a few (now RN will ask about me, I know, if possible, please consider me as you feel comfortable, just dont ask). Apart from this socio-religious overlapping, there is no much similarity between Sindhis and Punjabis. I mean, there are not mairrage etc inter-relations between the two. Now many Sindhis have converted to Non-vegs in India, unlike Punjabis. More lateron, if intrested. Thanks and Regards, akkbatra.
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In the USA, Stocks of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are down by 85 percent each.
Dow Jones surges by 200 points or 1.75 percent....
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Exit or Sell Mumbai Realty assets
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IT_Bulls
Banks fearing fall in realty prices; may tighten loan ratio.
Fearing that a fall in property prices may be around the corner, banks are now tightening their grip on the amount of home loan sanctions.
Banks have decided to finance a smaller portion of property value owing to the concern that fall in realty prices may mean unrecoverable defaults.
Kotak Mahindra Bank will lower the loan amount by 70-80%; whereas ICICI Bank and Axis Bank have indicated a reduction of 70% each.
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its now down 90%, may be 99% today HA HA...
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down more than 80% in a single tradingday
Posted by : fmcgbites
After gov take over of fannie and freddie, stocks are down more than 80% in a single trading session. that's what happens in USA, in one day any shareholder can go bankrupt. thats better in sense that you have don't to go through lower circuit pain.
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Sorry for cut message...Reposted
Dear RN and pkjattking,
Please let me interfere, RN is right to some extent about overlapping in Punjabis and sindhis. Like Punjabis, Sindhi is one whose origin has been in Sindh. Sindhi basically is local language. Anybody speaking Sindhi is recognised as a Sindhi. So like bengalis, Sindhis are Hindu Sindhis and Muslim Sindhis. About 90% Hindu Sindhis migrated to mainland India after undivided India's partition based on religious grounds in 1947. In undivided India, Punjab and sindh were neghbouring proviences, hence there was much social and religious interactions. Guru Nanak Dev had profound influence deep into Sindh. Sindhis, I mean Hindu Sindhis, till today worship Gurusahib and Granthsahib, in their temples known as Tikanna, parallel to any Gurudwara, but less spacious. There, the priest, daily reads Gurugranthsahib and special prayers are held on all festivals. Sindhis all over India, also celebrate Guru Nanak Jayanti with great enthusiasm. Also modern age Punjabi Gurus like Radhaswami, Nirankari etc have a great Sindhi followership in India. Many surnames are common in both like Batra, Ahuja, Sachdeo, Punjabi, Bhatia, Raheja etc to name a few (now RN will ask about me, I know, if possible, please consider me as you feel comfortable, just dont ask). Apart from this socio-religious overlapping, there is no much similarity between Sindhis and Punjabis. I mean, there are not mairrage etc inter-relations between the two. Now many Sindhis have converted to Non-vegs in India, unlike Punjabis. More lateron, if intrested. Thanks and Regards, akkbatra. ...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : akkbatra
Dear RN and pkjattking,
Please let me interfere, RN is right to some extent about overlapping in Punjabis and sindhis. Like Punjabis, Sindhi is one whose origin has been in Sindh. Sindhi basically is local language. Anybody speaking Sindhi is recognised as a Sindhi. So like bengalis, Sindhis are Hindu Sindhis and Muslim Sindhis. About 90% Hindu Sindhis migrated to mainland India after undivided India\\`s partition based on religious grounds in 1947. In undivided India, Punjab and sindh were neghbouring proviences, hence there was much social and religious interactions. Guru Nanak Dev had profound influence deep into Sindh. Sindhis, I mean Hindu Sindhis, till today worship Gurusahib and Granthsahib, in their temples known as \\\\
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Dear RN and pkjattking,
Please let me interfere, RN is right to some extent about overlapping in Punjabis and sindhis. Like Punjabis, Sindhi is one whose origin has been in Sindh. Sindhi basically is local language. Anybody speaking Sindhi is recognised as a Sindhi. So like bengalis, Sindhis are Hindu Sindhis and Muslim Sindhis. About 90% Hindu Sindhis migrated to mainland India after undivided India\\`s partition based on religious grounds in 1947. In undivided India, Punjab and sindh were neghbouring proviences, hence there was much social and religious interactions. Guru Nanak Dev had profound influence deep into Sindh. Sindhis, I mean Hindu Sindhis, till today worship Gurusahib and Granthsahib, in their temples known as \\\\...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : pkjattking
I am not sure what you mean but I guess sindhi,s have something to with now known as Pakistan... I have not heard anything about over lapping us......anyways there are the pathans or what we call the Taliban people who are creating the fuss even today..... even before the British were creating a lot of problems in India..... converting Hindus to Muslims.... looting and taking our women....this is partly the reason Sikhism was born to fight the aggression of these outsiders....that is partly the reason why we are aggressive people... its in the blood.... but in a good way....
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Andrew Holland of DSP Merrill Lynch said the weakness in the rupee indicates that India's oil bill remains high despite a fall in crude prices. With respect to the Freddie Mae-Fannie Mac issue, Holland said their bailout is good news for financial markets. "However, we see more downside in US housing."...
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Keep a eye on these stocks. they look technically good and uptrend.
RENUKA 120.2
BALRAMCHIN 92.05
HINDUSTAN CONSTRUCTION CO 104.35
POWER GRID CORP. LTD. 97.95
TRIVENI ENGG. & INDS. LTD 92.35
STER 621.85
KARUTURI NETWORKS LIMITED 27.4
INDIAINFO 138.95
WALCHANNAG 303.5
ADANI ENTERPRISES LIMITED 608.65
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Nifty will hit 5020 in September 2008
Posted by : fmcgbites
Provisional figure for today
fii's buy 243 crores and our great domestic institutional sold 132 crores . Still they are moving in different direction.
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hi ank,
Sensex may not go beyond 15600 levels in the near future.And the levels of 16100 may form the top atleast for the next one to two months.
Profit booking is very likely to take place at levels of 15600 and the possibility of sensex going to levels of 13000 are more.
The exception that can take sensex to higher levels than the mentioned ones can be a fall in crude price to levels below 100 US$ per barrel.
LT investors have to be very careful about any fresh accumulation at this time and it is very very risk to venture in to Realty space at this juncture.
LT investors will get very good opportunity to enter the Realty space in the months to come, particularly after the announcement of the results in the next few quarters.
LT investors have to be very careful with ICICI and its raising NPAs are going to be a major concern in the next few quarters and investors have to be very careful while committing any fresh investment at present levels in that counter.
One of the safest sector for LT investors with a time horizon of 2 years is Sugar space and Bajaj hind is a great buy on any decline and definitely not a bad bet at CMP.
For those with a time horizon of 1 to 4 months and enough risk appetite, IT giants can be good bets.
Infosys below 1700 levels for a target of 1900-1950, Satyam below 400 levels for a target of 490 can be considered as short term bets for those with enough risk appetite.
regards
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : ank1977
4650 for nifty is a crucial level to watch, if nifty manages to close above for 2 consecutive sessions, one can c the level of 4800. All the best.
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I am not sure what you mean but I guess sindhi,s have something to with now known as Pakistan... I have not heard anything about over lapping us......anyways there are the pathans or what we call the Taliban people who are creating the fuss even today..... even before the British were creating a lot of problems in India..... converting Hindus to Muslims.... looting and taking our women....this is partly the reason Sikhism was born to fight the aggression of these outsiders....that is partly the reason why we are aggressive people... its in the blood.... but in a good way.... ...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : radhika_nandlal
okay, but u dint tell me about sindhi... i hear their culture overlaps with your's right?
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Provisional figure for today
fii's buy 243 crores and our great domestic institutional sold 132 crores . Still they are moving in different direction....
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Nifty will hit 5020 in September 2008
Posted by : fmcgbites
nifty made a high of 4558 and was trading between 4500-4520 levels for most of the time, at end of the day, some profit booking was done, I was surprised with this profit booking, because Europe opened gap up and remained in health gains, DOW future was showing 250 gains, so tomorrow global cues sentiment was also expected goo but still profit booking happened at closing hours. It looks to strong hands wanted to get out some weak hands and that confirms that we are going to make some more gains in September. Target of nifty in September 08 remains same.
4725,4850 and then 5020
Prepare yourself for 5000 in Nifty
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After gov take over of fannie and freddie, stocks are down more than 80% in a single trading session. that's what happens in USA, in one day any shareholder can go bankrupt. thats better in sense that you have don't to go through lower circuit pain....
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nifty made a high of 4558 and was trading between 4500-4520 levels for most of the time, at end of the day, some profit booking was done, I was surprised with this profit booking, because Europe opened gap up and remained in health gains, DOW future was showing 250 gains, so tomorrow global cues sentiment was also expected goo but still profit booking happened at closing hours. It looks to strong hands wanted to get out some weak hands and that confirms that we are going to make some more gains in September. Target of nifty in September 08 remains same.
4725,4850 and then 5020
Prepare yourself for 5000 in Nifty ...
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Nifty will hit 5020 in September 2008
Posted by : fmcgbites
NSG deal done.
Target of nifty in September 08.
4725,4850 and then 5020
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