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Posted by : sambala

Hinduism and Vegetarianism

Having well considered the origin of flesh-foods, and the cruelty of fettering and slaying corporeal beings, let man entirely abstain from eating flesh. - Manusmriti 5.49

While most major world religions are traceable to one particular founder, Hinduism has its beginnings in such remote antiquity that it cannot be traced to any one individual. Its roots, however, are firmly planted in the ancient Vedic texts.

Interestingly enough, the word "Hindu" is not actually found anywhere in Vedic scriptures. The term "Hindu" is vague, and even a misnomer. The term was introduced by Muslims from neighboring countries who referred to people living across the River Sindhu, a people who actually held a vast array of religious beliefs. There is no one "Hindu religion."

The original Vedic system is actually quite different from contemporary Hinduism. Both the old and the new, however, converge harmoniously in regard to vegetarianism. Here are some quotes from the Vedas:

"You must not use your God-given body for killing God`s creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever." (Yajur Veda, 12.32)

"By not killing any living being, one becomes fit for salvation." (Manusmriti, 6.60)

"The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing. He who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts of the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells, or cooks flesh and eats it-all of these are to be considered meat-eaters." (Mahabharata, Anu. 115:40)

Cow Protection

According to India`s traditional scriptural histories, the original cow Mother Surabhi, was one of the treasures churned from the cosmic ocean, and "the five products of the cow" (pancha-gavya)-milk, curd, ghee, urine and dung-were considered purifying. The cow is respected in her own right as one of the seven mothers because she offers her milk as does one`s natural mother. The cow plays a central role in the Vedic ideal for humanity: "simple living and high thinking," a life close to nature and God. Until recently in India`s history, most people lived on tracts of land suitable for complete self-sufficiency.

The cow thus has always played an important role in India`s economy. For example, cow dung serves as an inexpensive fertilizer. Stored in underground tanks, it also generates methane gas that is used for heating and cooking. Cow dung is also an effective disinfectant and is used both as a poultice and a cleansing agent.

The very name for the cows is aghnaya which means "not to be killed."

Vegetarianism and Nonviolence

In the Manusmriti, it is stated that one should refrain from eating all kinds of meat, for such eating involves killing and leads to karmic bondage (bandha).

Elsewhere in the Vedas, the last of the great Vedic Kings, Maharaja Pariksit, is quoted as saying that "only the animal killer cannot relish the message of the Absolute Truth." Therefore, the Vedas inform us to obtain spiritual knowledge, one must begin with being vegetarian.

The Lord`s Mercy

According to the Vedic scriptures, one should offer all foods as a sacrifice to God: "…all that you do, all that you eat, all that you offer and give away, as well as all austerities that you may perform, should be done as an offering unto Me." (Bhagavad-gita 9.27)

The Gita also clarifies exactly what should be offered: "If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it." (Bhagavad-gita. 9.26)



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Posted by : pss5588

morningstar,

As I said earlier justification is one thing, understanding is another. Why do u get agitated on a mere discussion on this board? Why coward guests butt in and use any and all language? Why why ? REACTION. Every action has a reaction . sometimes more sometimes less, sometimes equivalent.

Dont contradict urself in the same write up.....

though highly educated, young, and having a bright life are not the least remorse to what they have done

Only the poor, downtrodden, and peasants are used for such activities!!

So those criteria no longer apply irrespective of communities. Even the educated and the wise will react when things go too far.

You say there is the law of the land if there is conversion. Yes so go ahead and convert muslims and when u are beheaded ask the law to take its course. Why such love for the downtrodden among hindus only? Why not share the sweet faith and the rosary and the cross and the cake with the downtrodden among the muslims too with full faith that they will let the law take care of those conversions. For that matter u urself can lead the way in the venture without waiting for ur fanatical and sly men of god to show their sly ways.

And if u come out of it whole and soul then we can discuss things afresh in a cordial atmosphere and maybe I will myself offer to be converted of my own free will. Want to give it a try?cheers to u on ur venture.

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Posted by : Guest

i agree that the 33 cr gods had been created by the humans......

a classic case of falsehood of their god.......man creates god!!!

in gods name, man outlines or enunciates the high class & low class formula!!!!!

and that the low class has to adore the high class aka demigods....

this lie or falsehood was revealed by the leaders evr & mk....centuries back,who would not accept that one set of humans was considered as superior to others.....and hence their discarding the RELIGION WITHIN A RELIGION.....I.E. brahminism*****

HOW CAN THERE BE A GOD WHO TEACHES INEQUALITY, DISCRIMINATION, FALSE SUPERIORITY,.......so all this is man made......

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Posted by : blackshirt12

You mean to say "regain" Border Gavaskar Trophy..
However, I was apalled by the nature of dismissal of your most consistent batsman Dhoni...
Ha...ha...ha...ha...ROFL...

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Posted by : knair

Dear sambala,

It is a great piece of writing. I don`t know how I missed it for a week. I just saw it.

If `Hinduism` is not mentioned anywhere in the vedas and sastras and if this identity has been created by muslims in the latter stages of history, before they captured power in India, it is a new piece of knowledge for those who speak about hindu and hinduism. Hindustan is not frequently used as a name for India by most of us but always mentioned by muslims. This leads to separatism.

As far as India is concerned, it cannot identify to a particular name for forming any kind of culture. We have vedas but difficult to know who created it and written it. So is Sastras. When we look into Gita, it is like a university, still finding meanings and explanations by different people. Then the Ramayanas. Several people created it at different times. Nobody can take credit for it.
But we have our own way of identification. The way of conflicting views and fighting for each of them. Emotional we all are and not intelligent people.

Patience is something which we have to find out where it comes from.
When we watch the tv channels, we feel that it is for a place to fight. And the fighters are called to be great intelligentia. They catch a word and fight for it till the end without reaching anywhere.
They are trying to teach us that we are really fools.

India is now not a united country. It is being tormented to be treated as states (powerful than the country itself) and regions within the states and zones again within the regions and so and so.
The it is devided into caste domination. Are we heading for total collapse?

I took birth in Kerala (and as called as a malayali). I married a girl from Karnataka (she is called as a kannadiga). We adopted Hindi and our children`s mother toungue is hindi. Where ever we go we cannot specifically identify as related to a particular region. That I treat it as a great value but we are not counted anywhere.
And that is India we have today.

knair

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Posted by : Ramki

Hey black......After two days of play I thought India will be routed 0-4 by Aussies...... Now that tailenders managed to take the total to more than 300 plus India has more chances of drawing this series.....But if our players are not aggressive it will be difficult to retain the Border-Gavaskar trophy is for sure......He..He..He..ROFL

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Posted by : sambala

Hinduism and Vegetarianism

Having well considered the origin of flesh-foods, and the cruelty of fettering and slaying corporeal beings, let man entirely abstain from eating flesh. - Manusmriti 5.49

While most major world religions are traceable to one particular founder, Hinduism has its beginnings in such remote antiquity that it cannot be traced to any one individual. Its roots, however, are firmly planted in the ancient Vedic texts.

Interestingly enough, the word "Hindu" is not actually found anywhere in Vedic scriptures. The term "Hindu" is vague, and even a misnomer. The term was introduced by Muslims from neighboring countries who referred to people living across the River Sindhu, a people who actually held a vast array of religious beliefs. There is no one "Hindu religion."

The original Vedic system is actually quite different from contemporary Hinduism. Both the old and the new, however, converge harmoniously in regard to vegetarianism. Here are some quotes from the Vedas:

"You must not use your God-given body for killing God`s creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever." (Yajur Veda, 12.32)

"By not killing any living being, one becomes fit for salvation." (Manusmriti, 6.60)

"The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing. He who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts of the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells, or cooks flesh and eats it-all of these are to be considered meat-eaters." (Mahabharata, Anu. 115:40)

Cow Protection

According to India`s traditional scriptural histories, the original cow Mother Surabhi, was one of the treasures churned from the cosmic ocean, and "the five products of the cow" (pancha-gavya)-milk, curd, ghee, urine and dung-were considered purifying. The cow is respected in her own right as one of the seven mothers because she offers her milk as does one`s natural mother. The cow plays a central role in the Vedic ideal for humanity: "simple living and high thinking," a life close to nature and God. Until recently in India`s history, most people lived on tracts of land suitable for complete self-sufficiency.

The cow thus has always played an important role in India`s economy. For example, cow dung serves as an inexpensive fertilizer. Stored in underground tanks, it also generates methane gas that is used for heating and cooking. Cow dung is also an effective disinfectant and is used both as a poultice and a cleansing agent.

The very name for the cows is aghnaya which means "not to be killed."

Vegetarianism and Nonviolence

In the Manusmriti, it is stated that one should refrain from eating all kinds of meat, for such eating involves killing and leads to karmic bondage (bandha).

Elsewhere in the Vedas, the last of the great Vedic Kings, Maharaja Pariksit, is quoted as saying that "only the animal killer cannot relish the message of the Absolute Truth." Therefore, the Vedas inform us to obtain spiritual knowledge, one must begin with being vegetarian.

The Lord`s Mercy

According to the Vedic scriptures, one should offer all foods as a sacrifice to God: "…all that you do, all that you eat, all that you offer and give away, as well as all austerities that you may perform, should be done as an offering unto Me." (Bhagavad-gita 9.27)

The Gita also clarifies exactly what should be offered: "If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it." (Bhagavad-gita. 9.26)



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Posted by : RevengeOfTheGod

Dear eashwar
1) Let us first realize that the word Hindu is not mentioned anywhere in the vedas or the scriptures. This was a term that had geographical connotations.
Yes, Hinduism is a tolerant religion, infact its so tolerant that anything goes. Its like water, it can take the shape of any vessel into which it is poured.
IMHO, this extreme malleability is also the greatest weakness. The line between right and wrong is blurred. Everything is right and nothing is wrong. It is this malleability that lead to the rise of 33crore gods and all sorts of social evils like caste system and Sati.
The vedas are a the source of your religion. It is incumbent upon every hindu to read, understand and follow it.

2) Muslims are instructed to turn towards the kaabah during the prayer. It serves as a common direction for all Muslims during the prayer. Other than serving as a directional reference, we dont pray to the kaabah. We pray to Allah - the one and only God by facing the kabah.
Its a very ordinary brick construction.
The fact that Muslims don`t worship the kaabah is very evident from the that during the prophets times, people used to stand on the kabah to announce the prayers.

3) Most hindus that i talk to say that they believe in the concept of one God. But in reality, the very fact that we have 33crore gods and so many different kinds of gods in various shapes of forms imply that most of my friends are only paying lip service to this one god concept. Let me quote the example that i gave to Radhika_nandlal.
Let us put ourselves for a microsecond in God`s shoes. How would you feel if your children starting calling your neighbor as `daddy`.


The vedas prohibit idol worship and yet we have 33 crore Gods , let me ask you , who is immature , god or us ?
How can a human being convince himself to worship something that he has created with his own hands ? Where is the logic ?What good or harm can come from an article made from Stone, or wood ?

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Posted by : Guest

DEAR RADHIKA
you have no idea , when you talk all this about christians, let me tell you something , yes in india there are less christians so there is danger for them from hindus , but do you have any idea what will happen to the hindus all over the world if the christans behave in the same way ,
please think about it.
voilence is not an answer for anything.
and if you really think that convent school are not helping you than you should ask the governament to do something , or why not the VHP RSS BAJRANG DAL start schools and colleges for this country
dont be an illiterate all this is just dirty politics dont get sucked into it.
first fight against muslims then christians
the the hindus fight amongst them selves
like the mahahrashtrains dont want other hindus who are from north india or south
hahahhahahahhahhahah
think

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Posted by : Guest

the hindu fanatics are just programmed to kill, by the hard core criminals wearing masks......

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Posted by : Guest

DEAR RADHIKA
you have no idea , when you talk all this about christians, let me tell you something , yes in india there are less christians so there is danger for them from hindus , but do you have any idea what will happen to the hindus all over the world if the christans behave in the same way ,
please think about it.
voilence is not an answer for anything.
and if you really think that convent school are not helping you than you should ask the governament to do something , or why not the VHP RSS BAJRANG DAL start schools and colleges for this country
dont be an illiterate all this is just dirty politics dont get sucked into it.
first fight against muslims then christians
the the hindus fight amongst them selves
like the mahahrashtrains dont want other hindus who are from north india or south
hahahhahahahhahhahah
think

WHAT MADE HUINDUS ANGRY IN KARNATAKA

Posted by : K.N.Pillai16968

The following messge was Received in EMail.

What made Hindus angry in Karnataka


François GautierFirst Published : 06 Oct 2008 02:12:00 AM ISTLast Updated : 06 Oct 2008 07:40:54 AM ISTI WAS born in a Catholic family. My uncle was a priest, a wonderful man of warmth and compassion and I spent most my early years in Catholic boarding schools. When I was young I wanted to become a missionary and to ‘convert’ pagans in Asia. What I was taught by priests was that Hindus worship false gods and they needed to be brought back to the True Word by Jesus Christ.


Then of course, I came to India and discovered that actually Hindus, far from being the heathens, as had been portrayed in Europe, not only believed God’s diversity, the wonderful concept of avatar, but had given refuge to all persecuted minorities of the world, whether the Syrian Christians, the Parsis, the Jews (India is the only country in the world where Jews were not persecuted), the Armenians, or today the Tibetans.

I am also aghast at the one-sided coverage by the Indian media of the Christian- Hindu problem: blasts after blasts have killed hundreds of innocent Hindus in Varanasi, Delhi, Mumbai train blasts, Jaipur, etc. Yet, neither Manmohan Singh nor Sonia Gandhi have pronounced once the word ‘Islamic terrorism.’ But when furious Hindus, tired of being made fun of, of witnessing their brothers and sisters converted by financials traps, of seeing a 84-year-old swami and his Mataji brutally murdered, of reading blasphemy about their Gods, vent their anger against churches, many of them makeshifts, the Indian government goes after the soft target which the Hindus are. The same thing applies to the United States: they never warned Muslim organisations in India about the killing of Hindus, but when dollars are used to buy new converts and it angers the majority community of India,Washington has the arrogance to issue a warning, and Manmohan Singh does not have the pride to tell the US to mind its own business.

Neither the Indian press nor the western correspondents bothered to write about what made Hindus angry in Karnataka: Newlife, one important westernfunded missionary centre ( http://www.newlifevoice.org), began making conversions in and around Mangalore by accosting poor people in market areas, or in bus stands, befriending them and then taking them to churches to introduce them to the father.

Upon introduction they were paid Rs 2,500 per person and then taken to the Velankanni shrine, in Tamil Nadu, where they would get another Rs. 3,000.

When they finally converted to Christianity by changing the name, they got an incentive of Rs 10,000 onwards.

Newlife would then give them instructions to abandon wearing tilak on forehead, not to visit and offer prayers at the Hindu temples, replacing the photos and idols of Hindu gods and goddesses with a Cross, etc.

But what really angered local Hindus was when Newlife went one step further and published a book in Kannada — Satya Darshini — which was widely distributed by its missionaries. Here below is the translation of some of the most abusive passages: “Urvashi — the daughter of Lord Vishnu — is a prostitute.

Vashistha is the son of this prostitute.

He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48).

When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers (page 50). It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita.

“Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39).

When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others? The projection of them as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39). God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods. (Page 39).” When blasphemy and much worse is brought against the most sacred Hindu Gods, Hindus are supposed to take it meekly as sheep and let themselves be converted to a foreign religion! There are more than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries involved in conversion activities across different states.

In Tripura, there were no Christians at the time of independence. There are 1,20,000 today, a 90 per cent increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1,710 Christians in 1961, but 1.2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming up every day in far-flung villages and there was even an attempt to set up one near Tirupati.

Christians throughout the ages have strived on the concept of persecution and as a brought up Catholic, I remember feeling bad about all those martyred saints of Christianity. Christians in India like to say that they are only two per cent and can do no harm. But it is a sham: in the Tamil Nadu coastal

Conversion agencies analysis

Posted by : selambannan

Country Foreign mission agencies present # of service agencies major missionary institutions minor mission institutions Total # of Conversion agencies
Afghanistan 29 12 0 0 64
Albania 79 0 5 10 23
Algeria 37 26 70 50 53
American Samoa 18 5 10 15 11
Andorra 1 2 1 5 4
Angola 68 20 350 1,000 98
Anguilla 3 2 0 0 11
Antigua 25 9 6 25 9
Argentina 207 140 1,500 7,000 119
Armenia 10 0 10 20 47
Aruba 3 0 2 5 9
Australia 200 190 1,300 4,000 206
Austria 133 195 250 1,000 42
Azerbaijan 4 0 0 10 50
Bahamas 39 22 25 50 20
Bahrain 9 0 3 15 16
Bangladesh 116 40 250 600 103
Barbados 37 25 20 70 10
Belgium 130 330 2,100 7,500 54
Belize 61 13 40 100 41
Belorussia 18 0 5 40 58
Benin 51 35 75 350 104
Bermuda 12 6 2 10 8
Bhutan 20 6 3 5 17
Bolivia 190 90 500 2,700 135
Bosnia-Herzegovina 13 0 5 30 57
Botswana 66 25 150 300 78
Bougainville 0 0 10 10 57
Brazil 453 250 4,500 15,000 461
Britain 369 1,300 2,400 10,000 244
British Virgin Is 6 3 1 5 14
Brunei 3 0 3 10 32
Bulgaria 42 10 200 800 39
Burkina Faso 54 30 100 600 183
Burundi 37 40 220 800 21
Cambodia 35 4 25 100 48
Cameroon 120 57 400 1,500 402
Canada 178 350 900 3,000 236
Cape Verde 16 8 7 40 8
Cayman Islands 12 0 1 5 11
Central African Rep 44 28 300 1,400 105
Chad 53 26 70 300 167
Channel Islands 1 12 4 20 8
Chile 147 95 2,000 10,000 39
China 122 0 50 1,000 369
Colombia 188 140 2,500 9,000 161
Comoros 8 8 2 10 12
Congo-Brazzaville 64 13 100 500 108
Congo-Zaire 218 95 2,500 11,000 566
Cook Islands 5 0 2 10 13
Costa Rica 140 76 200 1,000 39
Croatia 25 0 20 150 76
Cuba 53 20 25 120 26
Cyprus 49 10 30 150 10
Czech Republic 69 20 50 280 33
Denmark 34 90 150 500 36
Djibouti 7 0 2 10 15
Dominica 16 14 8 30 17
Dominican Republic 102 40 250 700 20
Ecuador 167 58 500 2,000 94
Egypt 103 60 300 1,500 47
El Salvador 83 39 200 650 27
Equatorial Guinea 28 4 90 400 44
Eritrea 11 0 40 200 42
Estonia 15 0 50 270 59
Ethiopia 107 69 3,500 8,500 211
Faeroe Islands 4 4 0 5 10
Fiji 48 34 40 150 77
Finland 27 55 150 750 53
France 252 610 4,200 13,000 173
French Guiana 16 12 10 50 32
French Polynesia 7 12 30 180 46
Gabon 17 20 60 250 77
Gambia 29 17 15 80 55
Georgia 7 0 50 300 52
Germany 279 0 5,000 25,000 133
Ghana 183 65 500 3,000 369
Gibraltar 7 3 1 5 13
Greece 69 60 700 1,800 36
Greenland 11 3 2 10 11
Grenada 21 21 15 50 16
Guadeloupe 11 15 35 120 17
Guam 30 15 30 50 29
Guatemala 159 50 700 3,500 225
Guinea 43 3 5 25 76
Guinea-Bissau 38 1 25 120 59
Guyana 50 19 80 400 42
Haiti 169 35 300 1,200 21
Honduras 143 35 200 1,000 74
Hungary 80 24 50 400 36
Iceland 16 20 10 50 12
India 720 320 7,500 35,000 835
Indonesia 234 105 3,500 12,500 730
Iran 26 24 40 200 61
Iraq 23 15 30 100 70
Ireland 112 105 1,000 3,000 55
Isle of Man 2 8 0 5 9
Israel 146 60 200 1,500 58
Italy 199 850 13,500 25,000 72
Ivory Coast 96 56 200 800 235
Jamaica 127 29 150 600 43
Japan 334 250 900 2,500 58
Jordan 57 8 40 200 32
Kazakhstan 15 0 5 40 85
Kenya 345 180 1,500 7,500 330
Kirgizstan 9 0 3 15 68
Kiribati 5 4 13 45 11
Kuwait 5 2 5 20 33
Laos 15 15 80 250 82
Latvia 14 0 10 50 78
Lebanon 81 140 250 500 41
Lesotho 65 55 200 1,000 40
Liberia 110 35 150 700 152
Libya 13 0 0 10 31
Liechtenstein 1 3 2 10 11
Lithuania 9 0 15 40 48
Luxembourg 17 45 40 100 32
Macedonia 4 0 10 50 69
Madagascar 57 58 450 1,200 85
Malawi 124 50 200 1,000 82
Malaysia 98 41 250 750 231
Maldives 1 0 0 0 12
Mali 48 17 70 300 108
Malta 20 48 20 100 29
Marshall Islands 11 0 0 10 6
Martinique 11 25 10 50 16
Mauritania 20 1 0 0 31
Mauritius 14 41 30 100 42
Mayotte 0 0 0 5 8
Mexico 395 205 1,500 5,000 394
Micronesia 20 0 10 50 34
Moldavia 7 0 15 60 58
Monaco 6 20 7 25 17
Mongolia 23 0 2 15 25
Montserrat 8 4 2 10 13
Morocco 47 31 50 250 42
Mozambique 120 20 350 1,000 140
Myanmar 72 20 60 300 127
Namibia 42 12 200 1,000 63
Nauru 2 0 2 10 14
Nepal 115 50 35 200 65
Netherlands 125 340 1,800 4,500 74
Netherlands Antilles 26 20 70 250 35
New Caledonia 16 12 40 150 108
New Zealand 119 150 300 1,500 154
Nicaragua 108 40 250 1,250 78
Niger 38 12 20 100 97
Nigeria 246 105 1,500 8,000 661
North Korea 1 0 2 20 4
Northern Cyprus 0 0 0 10 1
Northern Mariana Is 14 0 5 25 3
Norway 36 110 80 250 55
Oman 7 2 2 10 10
Pakistan 150 45 300 1,500 153
Palau 1 0 0 10 6
Palestine 10 40 150 400 32
Panama 87 47 100 500 97
Papua New Guinea 140 130 700 2,500 932
Paraguay 136 54 300 1,500 123
Peru 237 130 600 2,500 321
Philippines 2,766 190 2,000 10,000 532
Poland 91 45 400 2,000 45
Portugal 140 130 380 2,100 66
Puerto Rico 90 50 150 700 32
Qatar 0 0 0 10 28
Reunion 16 18 20 100 22
Romania 82 20 300 1,500 43
Russia 112 120 400 2,500 183
Rwanda 57 38 200 1,000 43
Sahara 3 0 2 10 2
Saint Helena 4 2 0 10 13
Saint Kitts & Nevis 7 8 0 5 24
Saint Lucia 13 13 7 20 20
Saint Pierre & Miquelon 3 5 2 10 3
Saint Vincent 18 7 6 20 36
Samoa 16 12 18 50 24
San Marino 1 0 1 5 6
Sao Tome & Principe 7 5 2 10 11
Saudi Arabia 12 0 0 5 38
Senegal 71 35 150 750 123
Seychelles 7 14 20 100 9
Sierra Leone 82 24 100 400 95
Singapore 112 60 20 150 124
Slovakia 20 0 20 100 0
Slovenia 17 0 10 50 52
Solomon Islands 30 9 70 300 112
Somalia 22 5 10 30 19
Somaliland 0 0 0 5 6
South Africa 271 160 2,000 8,000 169
South Korea 161 120 1,000 5,000 19
Spain 303 300 4,100 9,500 81
Spanish North Africa 1 5 2 10 6
Sri Lanka 93 45 150 600 57
Sudan 68 27 60 250 177
Suriname 38 24 50 200 66
Swaziland 53 18 100 500 34
Sweden 52 90 75 250 112
Switzerland 106 480 220 700 85
Syria 20 29 40 200 54
Taiwan 229 90 300 1,200 73
Tajikistan 3 0 0 10 61
Tanzania 183 75 500 2,500 376
Thailand 176 90 300 1,500 265
Timor 3 3 15 70 43
Togo 49 32 100 400 154
Tonga 15 6 25 120 22
Trinidad & Tobago 51 30 80 300 48
Tunisia 19 18 25 100 27
Turkey 48 17 50 200 78
Turkmenistan 11 0 0 5 64
Turks & Caicos Is 2 3 1 5 20
Tuvalu 2 0 2 10 18
Uganda 150 59 350 1,350 175
Ukraine 56 0 100 500 93
United Arab Emirates 12 6 5 20 67
USA 256 2,300 9,000 25,000 519
Uruguay 105 68 150 700 66
Uzbekistan 9 0 3 10 81
Vanuatu 15 8 20 100 226
Venezuela 124 78 450 1,500 126
Viet Nam 51 62 800 2,000 107
Virgin Is of the US 33 10 10 50 35
Wallis & Futuna Is 3 6 2 10 5
Yemen 12 0 0 10 32
Yugoslavia 16 40 400 1,800 75
Zambia 141 78 250 950 207
Zimbabwe 159 58 500 2,000 153

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Posted by : Ramki

Hey venkat_c

Sorry to say this....I am in stock market for nearly 10 years and I have seen bear market atleast twice...... That`s the reason I never do short term trade as short term trade are always vulnerable to this volatality...... Even in this situation I firmly believe we can buy at present levels for long term gains say 3 years......Thanks and Rgds

Conversion agencies analysis

Posted by : selambannan

Methods used for conversion:
(1)Toys with `The Message` are given to children as gifts. A cube is very popular among teenagers. EvangeCube -- It`s a cube the size of a softball made of eight interlocking blocks that flip and fold into the story of Jesus Christ on some sides and messages from Bible denouncing the native religion. This is very popular in Africa, Russia and Asia. In UK the school children are asked to stuff shoe boxes with a gift to be sent to some African nation. In US evangelicals clandestinely organise Pizza parties in schools
(2)Majority of the world is crazy for money & wealth. People are ready to go to any extent to acquire wealth. Church is very successful is exploiting this rage by telling people to donate (called invest) to God (i.e., their Church) and pray. Church claims that God answers their prayers by returning atleast 1000% of what people offer. When people don`t get anything in return they are told that their prayers aren`t sufficient or $10+prayer will atmost get him/her a bicycle not a Rolls-Royce. This is called the "Health and Wealth" gospel in the U.S.A. - you give the church 10 percent of your gross income, and God is obligated to miraculously provide for you. This idea is big in Mormon and Pentecostal circles, and it`s making strong inroads among Baptists and "non-denominational" evangelicals. According to these preachers, if you aren`t rich and healthy, it`s because you lack faith. Uneducated, impoverished people are willing to try anything to get a good life.
(3)This strategy helps in generating a low opinion and delinking natives from their native religions, cultures and traditions. Fredrich Max Muller, Wendy Donniger, Paul Courtright, Jeffrey Kirpal etc are examples of these. Max Muller claimed that "he will write/translate Upanishads in such a way that no Hindu would ever respect them again". Jeffrey Kirpal established an incestuous relationship between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Vivekananda whereas Paul Courtright calls Hindu Lord Ganesha a oral-sex obsessed character.
A normal Hindu won`t call himself a `proud Hindu` after reading this literature and often becomes an object of ridicule in his society. Though many of these Scholars don`t call themselves active missionaries they successfully play part-1 of the missionary game i.e., delinking.
(4) Missionaries brought alcohol and promoted alcoholism to many tribal communities (example Polynesia/Tahiti). The leaders habituated to alcohol did everything what missionaries said losing their entire communities to christianity.
(5)Brainwashing:Conversion is a "nice" word for Brainwashing...and any study of brainwashing has to begin with a study of Christian revivalism in eighteenth century America. Apparently, Jonathan Edwards accidentally discovered the techniques during a religious crusade in 1735 in Northampton, Massachusetts. By inducing guilt and acute apprehension and by increasing the tension, the "sinners" attending his revival meetings would break down and completely submit. Technically, what Edwards was doing was creating conditions that wipe the brain slate clean so that the mind accepts new programming. He would tell those attending, "You`re a sinner! You`re destined for hell!"
(6)Many Christian employers and employers use employment to lure and many times force a non-Christian into their sect of Christianity
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Communication is the key to evangelism. It is not what you say BUT `HOW YOU SAY`.
Evangelists understand this concept better than anyone else. All the missionaries are trained in Marketing and Journalism. Marketing techniques are used to push their product (Jesus=Salvation; Other religions=Hell). Journalistic techniques are used to spin their stories, manage media and create stories about non-christian religions