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Market Outlook - Short Term
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RN,
Yes I hold the following positions, Two sold puts 4300 PE, and 4 long puts ( 2 at 4100 strike and 2 at 3900 strikes ) so I`m sort of Insured against any directional move, and i do hold one 4300 call at 42 rs and 4100 Call at 34 rs....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
radhika_nandlal
Vam,
You are having PUTs?
Can u believe i have calls at Rs 48 two of them that too 4200 which will come God incarnates next i think.... lets see... this is too intresting to watch.
I will buy when dow hits 8500 which is 40% lows from peak. 
Tracked by: 108 Boarders
Dear vam_aru,
Technically DOWNSIDE is Limited!
Let us hope better sense prevails among those BIG PLAYers!
Nifty can be easily taken to 4100 level if those BIG PLAYers want to do that! :)
Gud luk & happy investing!...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : vam_aru
Dear BSR,
Yes even though I hold some positions on long and short also , I do not want the markets to sink further, I hope FII, DII, HNI will wake up hard and make the markets stable atleast , if not up....
We don`t want to be like chinnese markets ...
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Dear googol,
I did not notice any correct/significant prediction from kalidas.
Can you enlighten me about those figures?
So far, whatever small readings I have done, I have come to the conclusion that he does have sound FUNDAMENTAL knowledge of financial markets, specially, the BS US market! :)
Gud luk & happy investing!...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : googol
0601
Dear BS,
As far as I know,except Kalidas,none has made any correct/significant prediction in this board.If one keeps the time factor open, anyone can predict a rise or a fall.
US mkts are taking a severe beating now.
Cheers,
Tracked by: 108 Boarders
Dear BSR,
Yes even though I hold some positions on long and short also , I do not want the markets to sink further, I hope FII, DII, HNI will wake up hard and make the markets stable atleast , if not up....
We don`t want to be like chinnese markets ......
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear vam_aru,
Let us hope that those FIIs do not go for any more MAD SELLing as their TA corrections of 53 % is over!
Otherwise, GAME will continue to take DIRTY Turn!
Let us hope for the best!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Vam,
You are having PUTs?
Can u believe i have calls at Rs 48 two of them that too 4200 which will come God incarnates next i think.... lets see... this is too intresting to watch.
I will buy when dow hits 8500 which is 40% lows from peak....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : vam_aru
Dear googol,
My god...It seems that some one put a fire on DOW Jones , It`s melting by the minute...9779 ( 546 points down )
Tomorrow is the blodd path day for us...
Tracked by: 108 Boarders
Dear vam_aru,
Let us hope that those FIIs do not go for any more MAD SELLing as their TA corrections of 53 % is over!
Otherwise, GAME will continue to take DIRTY Turn!
Let us hope for the best!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : vam_aru
Dear BSR,
Well , DOW and NASDAQ crumbling, DOW is melting now at 9836 now ( down 489 points ), so even though the P notes restrictions removed, and RBI moved tocut CRR rate by half percent is not going to help the markets...we may be testing 3500 first thing tomorrow, and I feel NIFTY will take a support at that level.
your views?
Tracked by: 108 Boarders
Dear googol,
My god...It seems that some one put a fire on DOW Jones , It`s melting by the minute...9779 ( 546 points down )
Tomorrow is the blodd path day for us......
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : googol
0601
Dear BS,
As far as I know,except Kalidas,none has made any correct/significant prediction in this board.If one keeps the time factor open, anyone can predict a rise or a fall.
US mkts are taking a severe beating now.
Cheers,
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Dow now under 9800..... so I would expect some sort of recovery.. here in this free fall.... lets c......
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear pkjattking,
You are RIGHT that SL got triggered for many stocks today even though DIIs did provide some BUYing support today!
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FII 06-Oct-2008 2051.23 3220.56 -1169.33
DII 06-Oct-2008 1545.99 884.99 661
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Defty made a new LOW today!
Oct 6 2794.90 2797.50 2602.80 2615.15
5598 was the HIGH on Jan 10, 2008
2602 is the LOW on Oct 06, 2008
(5598-2602)/ 5598 = 53.5 % corrections by those FIIs!
Further SELLing by FIIs going ahead means start of Dirty GAME in Indian stock markets!
As of now, Nifty has been capped at 4100 for time being!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Dear Kalidas, your write up makes eminent sense. I have advised my daughter in USA to divert some of her savings to Indian banks. I am a long term investor and my holdings consist of RIL, Indraprastha gas, HUL, ITC, SAIL, Syndicate bank, GAIL, RPL and small holding of high risk cat & dog shares. Any comments? I remain in profit in above stocks notwithstanding my earlier exit would have ensured better profit.Normally I book profits at regular intervals. I have some little cash for stock market investment but contemplate diverting these funds to buy gold/silver. which one is better? RBI HAS REDUCED CRR, which for sure is good news. What specific measures should Govt / RBI must undertake to ensure liquidity commensurate with inflation control and reasonable growth?...
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Paulson`s Poison & Antidote
Posted by : Kalidas
for drswastik
Banking collapse has begun. Even Japan has started withdrawing money from everywhere, this is why Japanese Yen despite Zero interest, is going up against US$, Euro, GBP, Aussie $ etc.
It is a home coming of all currencies. All foreign investments of FII will be liquidated either out of strategy, or requirements of funds redemption back home. It has nothing to do with the fundamental of individual companies.
When the banks collapse, the people will shift the money to treasury bonds. When they find that even treasury is useless, they buy only one thing - GOLD
WHERE IS IMF? Have you heard its name in such humongous crisis? Whenever there was crisis in Asia or Latin America, they were rushing here and there and offering many solutions on stringent terms. Now that their original mentor USA is in deep trouble, they do not utter even a single sentence.
Finally, after these currency and banks collapse, the world monetary system will be linked to Gold as standard. It may happen when the current crisis is fully played out.
Almost all troubled banks are nationalized. The only countries to come out strongly will be India (China too), France and Brazil.
India is very strongly positioned. It is least leveraged, almost all banks are already nationalized, so there will be no run on the banks, has over 30,000 tons of gold with private holders, people are now more literate now, and the country is blessed with well defined friendly weather. There is no better place than India. Most NRIs will start sending money to India from their banks (except perhaps Canada). If only RBI does not intervene to keep the rupee low, which is the most hazardous policy over decades - rupee should have been at Rs 26 now - that is biggest disincentive to NRIs
We can not predict the market even for tomorrow, so do not talk about 2010 and 2011 like an Astrologer.
Yes, one thing, The best opportunities for long term investment is coming in a few months. Brace it for that. If some FII withdraws the money from India that causes the loss of hundreds of points, that is more due to his weakness, or requirements back home, rather than the weakness of Indian economy.
It all depends how imaginative our PM and FM are. Being a good person is not enough. India needs leadership of highly imaginative persons who are relatively young (40+ to 55-) who can stay longer. We should not have leaders for whom we would have national holidays in a few years with flags hanging out at half mast.
Kalidas, Hong Kong`
6-10-2008
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Dow sinks 500 points amid growing anxiety over the extent of the global financial crisis. ...
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The End of Wall Street
Posted by : sambala
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. federal banking regulators were aware of everything that was happening at Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc in the months leading to the investment bank`s collapse, Lehman chief executive Richard Fuld told a Congressional hearing on Monday.
"Quarter to quarter, month to month, regulators (the Securities and Exchange Commission and Federal Reserve) saw how we reduced our commercial real estate holdings, how we increased our liquidity pools, how we decreased leverage and strengthened our capital levels," Fuld said in prepared testimony to be delivered to the House Oversight and Government Reform panel.
Over the summer, Lehman discussed with the Fed the possibility of converting to a bank holding company, which the two remaining big Wall Street investment banks Goldman Sachs Group Inc and Morgan Stanley recently did. Lehman filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on September 15.
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Dear BSR,
Well , DOW and NASDAQ crumbling, DOW is melting now at 9836 now ( down 489 points ), so even though the P notes restrictions removed, and RBI moved tocut CRR rate by half percent is not going to help the markets...we may be testing 3500 first thing tomorrow, and I feel NIFTY will take a support at that level.
your views?...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear Karthikn,
RBI action is an eyewash now! In my BS opinion, that removal on BAN on P Notes is not going to LIFT the market in MT! :)
P Notes are useful when there are PLAYers on FIIs side to go for those BUY! The same P-Notes can be used for Naked SHORT SELLing! SEBI has not put any BAN on that!
It is strange that ppl in SEBI do not understand how the same P-Notes can be misused to build those SHORT Positions over a long time frame!!
Let us hope for the best!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Credit still choked, Treasurys rally
European bank problems add to investor worries, leading to tighter borrowing and a flight from stocks.
NEW YORK -- Credit markets were still choked Monday, as the financial crisis spread throughout Europe, and investors reacted to the 0 billion bailout plan signed by President Bush .
Treasury prices ticked higher as investors waited to see signs of relief and stock markets around the world tumbled.
The European economy has been tripped by the same credit crunch that forced the bailout plan signed into law by President Bush last week. Over the weekend, Germany implemented its own bailout package.
The private financial sector of Germany has pledged €50 billion to juice the Hypo Real Estate bank, the nation`s Finance Ministry said Sunday. Hypo is one of Germany`s largest housing lenders.
The German government also stepped in to shore up consumer confidence by guaranteeing all private checking and savings accounts.
Treasurys: Government debt prices rose Monday as investors waited to see when the bailout package would start to have an effect on the crippled economy. Treasurys are a perceived safe-haven for investors in times of uncertainty.
The benchmark 10-year note rose 26/32 to 104-2/32 and its yield fell to 3.51% from 3.63% late Friday. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions.
The 30-year bond rose 1-15/32 to 108-17/32 and its yield dipped to 4.01% from 4.12% late Friday.
The 2-year note rose 7/32 to 101-1/32 and its yield fell to 1.49% from 1.66%.
The yield on the 3-month note fell to 0.41% from 0.49%. The 3-month note is a popular asset for money markets looking for stability because it offers a safe place to park cash on a short-term basis.
The gains in Treasurys reflected a flight to safety from stocks. Asian markets ended down 4% to 5%, Europe`s major indexes were 5% lower at midday, and U.S. futures pointed to a sharply lower open.
Bailout aftermath: The goal of the U.S. bailout plan was to loosen the clogged pipes of credit. Banks have been sitting on their cash, unwilling to lend, and if they are lending, it comes at a premium. When banks don`t lend, economic growth stalls and consumers have a hard time getting a loan for a house, car or tuition.
But the bailout plan was not expected to be a quick fix. The plan will take some time to offer relief for the economy and even longer for that relief to trickle down to consumers.
After weeks of belabored negotiating, and an initial failed vote in the House, the bill became law Friday.
President Bush, whose administration proposed the measure last month, has urged patience.
...
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Paulson`s Poison & Antidote
Posted by : sambala
Must left to unfold
Overall, many experts say, Paulson`s program opens the door to facilitating industry consolidation.
Strong banks will sell their assets to the government, this line of reasoning goes, and weak smaller banks will not be able to hide their losses. As a result, weaker firms will be acquired by stronger firms.
And even as many more financial firms are bound to fail, state and local governments find themselves in perilous financial shape, said Roger Kubarych, economist at Unicredit Global Research.
"We`re going to have further failures -- not just in the banking area but in other types of financial institutions, finance companies and insurance companies can`t all make it," said Kubarych in a television interview.
And on the municipal side of things, the prospect that Jefferson County, Ala., may go into default could be just the tip of the iceberg, Kubarych said.
Jefferson County, which includes Birmingham, would be the biggest municipality to go bankrupt since Orange County, Calif., in 1994. "They are not they only state and local authority having problem paying their debt, " Kubarych said, adding: "You can`t get foreign money into municipal bonds."
Greg Robb is a senior reporter for MarketWatch in Washington.
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OOPS!! RBI did it again!!!.. lol
BS`ly insane board for regulation..lol
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear Karthikn,
RBI action is an eyewash now! In my BS opinion, that removal on BAN on P Notes is not going to LIFT the market in MT! :)
P Notes are useful when there are PLAYers on FIIs side to go for those BUY! The same P-Notes can be used for Naked SHORT SELLing! SEBI has not put any BAN on that!
It is strange that ppl in SEBI do not understand how the same P-Notes can be misused to build those SHORT Positions over a long time frame!!
Let us hope for the best!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Anyways media is now out blowing air with bagpipers............
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
Atheist
sir,
I shorted DLF on Friday, I covered at 306 today! That calls for a roaring happy laugh, not a teeny weeny giggle. LOL
Sir, I read on bloomberg that CDS settlements of major banks are due this month in the US, assuming that there will be problems when the settlements begin, and with problems cropping up in Europe on a regular basis, the chances of further deterioration of the Indices look strong. What do you think?
...Singh...
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. federal banking regulators were aware of everything that was happening at Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc in the months leading to the investment bank`s collapse, Lehman chief executive Richard Fuld told a Congressional hearing on Monday.
"Quarter to quarter, month to month, regulators (the Securities and Exchange Commission and Federal Reserve) saw how we reduced our commercial real estate holdings, how we increased our liquidity pools, how we decreased leverage and strengthened our capital levels," Fuld said in prepared testimony to be delivered to the House Oversight and Government Reform panel.
Over the summer, Lehman discussed with the Fed the possibility of converting to a bank holding company, which the two remaining big Wall Street investment banks Goldman Sachs Group Inc and Morgan Stanley recently did. Lehman filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on September 15.
...
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The End of Wall Street
Posted by : sambala
Lehman CEO Fuld says "I and many others were wrong," and that the Fed and SEC "were privy to everything as it was happening."
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