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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
lovemeall26
Boarder Since : 16th Jun 07
Posted 822 messages to date
Hello shehnavaz,
It appears you have made a killing on messages posted by Lalit on behalf of somebody else. I also read that you have invested your entire capital in futures on maybe friday and are sitting on huge profits. Well good for you, but be careful as you are playing with fire. I mean really red hot fire. Reckless trading in futures with inadequate capital backup for any margin shortfalls is an extremely dangerous game. Maybe, you got it right this time, but believe me the day it goes wrong, your entire capital can get wiped out. Whatever you may have earned in the whole year can evaporate into this air in just one day. Yes it has happned to many people many times.
Lastly, I usually do not follow calls given by others, not even by my broker. The funny part is people from my brokerage ask me for daily levels. Lol.
take care
lovemeall26
Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!
Posted by : marketman
Boarder Since : 4th Jan 04
Posted 10741 messages to date
We have been listening indian growth stories for few years.... our financial markets too witnessed the same trend till recently.... our policy makers repeatedly assuring the investors about the strongness of indian economy.... they are saying india is immune to world financial crisis....
But indian financial markets too collapsing along with the global cues.... almost all investors and many corporates are already in deep troubles.... few are doubting at some pvt sector banks for their suspicious behaviour....
We are also part of globe,india is not from any other planet.... this common logic is ignored by our policy makers and talking nonsenses on daily basis to confuse/mislead the indian investors aswell as indian public....
Atleast the chiefs of global economy taking few steps to control the situation,we havnot seen any types of mesures or useful decisions so far in india.... already stock markets fell more than 50% from their peaks within few months.... banks are struggling for survival,many corporates facing liquidty problem,few companies at the threshold of removing employees from payrolls,experts epecting subprime type issues may occur soon in india too.... interestingly indian rupee is weaken much within short span of time....
By seeing/experiencing all these ill effects,even patriotic indians doubting about the situation of economy in the country.... few people asking questions like Is indian economy too collapsing?!
0806
Respected Lord,
I think there is a communication gap between YOU and me.
What I prayed last October was
`Please take Teledata to blue chips level, within a year`
and
NOT
`Please take all blue chips to Teledata level, within a year`
Kindly correct your records asap
Thanks and Pranams,
Economic crisis-Dos and don’ts ...........
Posted by : latikav
Boarder Since : 23rd Oct 06
Posted 1160 messages to date
Dos and don’ts
• Economic crisis. market meltdown. rising interest rates. rising inflation... times are, indeed, tough. Here are 10 recommendations on what you should and shouldn`t do to keep your financial health on track.
What you should do
• Follow the news. Swinging markets and new regulatory initiatives... things are changing quickly. Each development affects different sectors differently. Follow the financial media-and Business Today`s Money section, for instance-to keep abreast of the latest developments in India Inc. and for advice on how to profit from them.
• Get your finances in order. There has never been a better time to make a budget and start paying off your debt and credit cards, personal loans, etc. If possible, transfer your loans from a bank that`s charging a higher rate of interest to one that promises a cheaper rate.
• Rethink your plans to retire. If you`re expecting to retire soon, consider holding off for a while, if possible, until things calm down. That will give you time to reassess and, if need be, modify your plans.
• Call your financial adviser. With end-of-the-year tax planning an annual ritual, now is a good time to make an appointment with your tax adviser, no matter what the economic outlook. He or she may have some advice on how to tweak your finances as you ride out the current storm.
What you shouldn`t do
• Bail out. Dumping your stocks or equity mutual funds now, when values are especially low, will guarantee that you turn paper losses into real ones. Even if there`s more downside to come, staying on course often pays off during times of economic uncertainty.
• Stop saving. Those regular contributions you`ve been making to your savings or retirement accounts are an important part of good financial discipline, and there`s no reason to stop them now. We`ve long recommended the virtue of making regular, monthly savings. Continue this habit, even if it means cutting down on other things. like the weekly family outing, or that after-office drink with friends.
• Speculate. While lower prices of shares, create opportunities, speculation can get you into big financial trouble. Avoid it.
• Take on new debt. Be careful about acquiring new debt. Economic downturns can affect job stability and investment incomes, making it difficult to determine how much debt you can handle. If you must borrow, say, to put a child through college or to buy a house, be doubly sure that you`ve examined all the options and risks.
• Stop living. Although these times demand extra caution, there`s such a thing as over-reacting. So, don`t overreact. Reflect carefully and, where necessary, adjust. But don`t stop enjoying the little things of life. You`ll only make yourself sad.
Business Today..........
Top Rate Message `Reliance 1650` Vanished
Posted by : radhika_nandlal
Boarder Since : 10th Jun 07
Posted 11418 messages to date
Moderator,
Before you wind up for the day, kindly inform the board who deleted boyplunger`s message. Thanks.
Also the senior boarders are frustrated and have quit.
Pranky quit becoz format was changed and someone hacked into his homepage.
nightowl quit becoz of continous message deletion.
Kaizen has just expressed his frustration to boyplunger about message deletion.
Vkk quit and returned thankfully for MMB.
If you introduce this automatic message deletion informtation which i suggested in my last post and also whenver a message is archived that should show up so we know the number of messages which have gone missing on account of archiving and numbers which have gone missing on account of deletion. Also archive section does not work.
The format was a big disappointment to many boarders but i am basically pitta by nature so no disappointmenst mow me down.
Will MMB close down soon anyway? Coz there is no response to these serious questions by senior boarders!
Do let us know.
Dear Moderator, Sorry to bother you but this message does not appear in your inbox hence I am posting it again.
Dear Moderator,
My message on the thread “ Reliance 1650” on Reliance board is missing. Till yesterday it was top rated message today it is gone! Vanished! Is it due to any technical reason?
Reliance is ready for bouncing back
Posted by : nadhi
Boarder Since : 6th Feb 07
Posted 1900 messages to date
(3.85)
Dear sharad,
I find it painful to note that good boarders are quitting. I know that you will do only the proper thing. Thanks for your affection in me all along and marking a copy of your messages always. Please send me your mail ID thro PM. I want to keep in touch with a true well wisher.
Kind regards
Nadhi
Reliance is ready for bouncing back
Posted by : JAGDISH GABA
Boarder Since : 6th Oct 06
Posted 1149 messages to date
kotakinvestment,
dear sir,i happened to go through your profile n find the efforts you have put in to come to this level
But may i know,are we working for any rewards here on MMB?I feel no not at all but on the other hand we share our experiences with other boarders and get knowledge fron them to
In all this is a knowledge sharing forum n we should not bother for any psychological rewards in the shape of :message of the day: or boarder of the day"After all whats there in it?More over we write here under a nic only
Yes if we work here for some financial or business gains,then the story is different n i suppose you are not one of them
Its therefore requested to see these things from a larger interests and be magnanomous to forget all these small things and be with the board
If at all you have taken a decision thn fine and there will be hardly any one to call you back too
Moderator favouring any community or a person is not true and we dont find any of such happening so for
Please review your decision in the larger interest
Bye n take care-jagdish gaba
Hinduism : Perfect way of life.
Posted by : KotakInvestment
Boarder Since : 14th Apr 06
Posted 2434 messages to date
What people say about Hinduism ??
(1) Arthur Bashman ( Historian of Australia):
" In India , I found a race of mortals living upon the Earth, but not adhering to it,inhabitingcities,but not being fixed to them, possessing everything, but possessed by nothing.
(2)Apollonius Tyanaeus:
( Greek Traveller in 1st century CE):
'If there is one place on the face of this earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earlier days when man began the dream of exixtance, it isIndia."
(3) Romain Rolland ( french Philosopher. ( 1886-1944):
"In religion , India is the only millionaire......
The One land that all men desire to see,
and having seen once,by even a glimpse,
would not give that glimpse for all the shows
of all the rest of the globe combined."
(4) Mark wain ( american Author. 1835-1910):
" It is already becoming clear taht a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in the self-destruction of the human race......
At this supremely dangerous moment in history , the only way of salvation for mankind is the Indian Way."
(5)Dr.Arnold Toynbee ( British Historian-1889-1975)
Hinduism, though its heroes and history,relays the real values of life.AS George bernard Shaw confirmed:
"The Indian way of life provides the vision of the natural , real way of life.We veil ourselves with unnatural masks.On the face of India are the tender expressions which carry the mark of the Creator's hand."
These devine expressions are values of service, love, sacrifice,humility,duty,devotion,fidelity, tolerance and others that help perfect the individual.........
I am proud of being Hindu.
SK
(6)
The Big Debate....................
Market Analysis - Technical View
Posted by :
Nooresh
Boarder Since : 19th May 06
Posted 295 messages to date
The above levels are the biggest debate between all types of technical analysts be it Elliot, Classical, Wave or whatever.
Although I am mainly stock specific so prefer to go with the Classical patterns but do tend to have a look into various theories for index calculations.
Now let’s see the points of debate based on primary assumptions of technical analysis.
1) Bullish or Bearish in the long term.
2) Historical Comparisons.
3) Time Period.
4) Price Target.
5) Miscellaneous Observations
6) Observations and Conclusions.
1) Bullish or Bearish
There is hardly any technical analysis theory or analyst who would give a 6k Sensex and 2k Nifty target and consider the indices to be in a major bear trend and we may not go above 21k in the coming decade and continue to be in a range of 6k-21k as we did in 1990-2000.
Majority of the technical theories and analysts continue to maintain that Sensex is in a long term bull market and may knock new highs in the next decade or say 3-5 years.
2) Historical Comparisons.
Let’s start with bear markets in India.
Although there is no hard and fast rule about what could be termed a bear markets. I would consider any fall of 20-50 % from peak in absolute terms and spans for more then 5 months to 2-3 years.
I have still not understood why every analyst thinks it was only 2000 to 2003 was the only bear market but that could be because all have been tracking Nifty only which started in 1994.
Sensex corrected 40 % in 1986 -1988, 1991, 1992-1993. The important one would be 1986-1988 and 1992-1993 as they lasted for more then 8-13 months and can be used for the comparisons.
Although if one is looking at a structural bull market then the most important one to be considered would be the 1986-1988 bear phase. As this goes well with the multi-year breakout which happened in 2005.
Comparing current bear market phase to 1992-1993 and 2000-2003 Sensex has one concern that during the period of 1990-2003 Sensex continued to range between 2k-6k. And all through after a bull run market ended up touching the lower side range of 2k. So in such a comparison it would imply a testing of the breakout of 6k in 2005 for current index and then make a new range of 6k-21k which may last for another decade ??? !.So definitely there are questions on both sides whether to consider 1992-1993 , 2000-2003 or consider the 1986-1988 corrections.
Charts for reference:
Sensex 1986-1988 correction
Sensex 1992-1993 correction
Sensex 2000-2003 correction.
USA – Dow Jones
This is the oldest available index in the world and also the biggest economy so it makes sense to compare a highly mature market for any part of technical analysis.
Here again the structural bull runs were seen in 1930s and 1980s. So 1937-1942 and 1987 would be important ones to watch for comparison as these corrections led to the major bull rallies. I have been comparing the US economic scenario of 1980s to India of 2000s. And the pattern of multi-year breakout seems to be very similar on both cases. Have extensively included the same in our come look into the future presentation.
Also one more observation is that October is a Bear Killer month for Dow Jones. According to the Stock Traders Almanac (which is the authority on seasonal trends), October crashes took place during 1929 and 1987. October downturns also took place in 1978, 1979, 1989, and 1997. October, however, is also known as a "bear killer". Bear markets ended during October in 1946, 1957, 1960, 1962, 1966, 1974, 1987, 1990, 1998, 2001, and 2002. Charts 2, 3, and 4 show October bottoms in 1987, 1998, and 2002. October also saw big gains after bad Septembers in the five years from 1999-2003. We have to consider October month importantly as US backed recession is leading to financial crisis all over the world.
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