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Housing Development and Infrastructure

Belongs to: Construction & Contracting - Real Estate
Buy, Sell or Hold? 179 comments
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BSE: 532873
NSE: HDIL
126.90  -11.7 (-8.44)
Volume: 7023848
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07 Oct 2008 21:38

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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hi usgoel,
i am fully agreeing with your views on hdil. but the problem is they are sitting on a huge debt of 3,000+ crores. thats their biggest disadvantage...which will drive down its price further down. there are some strong bears in this counter thats why its falling so sharply. otherwise how can any stock fall so much yaar. may be after half yearly results the stock price will recover. its a steel buy at current levels i feel.

swamy.
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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : usgoel

Further important is the optimism that people bought this stock at 800. They are holding it at 135 now. So they lost 800-135=665 per stock. You have only to lose 135 but can gain 1350. Fundamentals intact, p/e 2.5, eps 55, sound business (not like other realty businesses that totally depend on new developments, its into restructuring), Book Value 132..

I don`t know if it can go to Rs. 10 or 20 but all i know is that it will go to 1500 some day maybe after 2-4 years but it definitely will..

Happy Investing !!!

07 Oct 2008 21:30

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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I have always been bearish about this stock, it being in realty sector. Thanks for your guess....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs

dude, did u see, it has gone down below its bv.
what i said was correct i guess.

swamy.

07 Oct 2008 21:20

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 127.05 ( -8.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 126.90 ( -8.44 % )
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dude, did u see, it has gone down below its bv.
what i said was correct i guess.

swamy.
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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43

Thanks for your views. Probably the weakness in this share may be because of its being in realty sector, which as a whole look bearish.

07 Oct 2008 12:00

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 134.55 ( -3.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 134.60 ( -2.89 % )
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Bearish phase is not yet over time wise. Next bull run will take a while....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : Guest

We have seen a great bull run and now we arre in a bearish phase. We should prepare ourselves for another bull run now. Its a cycle.

07 Oct 2008 11:44

HDIL valuation at 2.5 x

Posted by : jaimirpuri
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 134.55 ( -3.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 134.60 ( -2.89 % )
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What do you think about HDIL at lower than 2.5 x P/E and falling?...

07 Oct 2008 09:48

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : mukut
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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What about Debt it raised for land in mumbai at high value and high interest rates? It has to repay loan amount to debtors otherwise they will liquidate. If property market do not improve then this company will be in trouble becaue of it`s high cost debt. In old days people used to buy property for personal use but now property is core investment sector where investor would like to cash out profit. Lots of investment in property is from investment companies and their objective is profit. So be realistic and correlate market with GDP growth, IIP, Interest, inflation, liquidity,, demand, supply and global funds in/out....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : usgoel

Further important is the optimism that people bought this stock at 800. They are holding it at 135 now. So they lost 800-135=665 per stock. You have only to lose 135 but can gain 1350. Fundamentals intact, p/e 2.5, eps 55, sound business (not like other realty businesses that totally depend on new developments, its into restructuring), Book Value 132..

I don`t know if it can go to Rs. 10 or 20 but all i know is that it will go to 1500 some day maybe after 2-4 years but it definitely will..

Happy Investing !!!

07 Oct 2008 08:37

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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We have seen a great bull run and now we arre in a bearish phase. We should prepare ourselves for another bull run now. Its a cycle....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43

Thanks for your views on LT investment in this share.

07 Oct 2008 06:44

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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Thanks for your views on LT investment in this share....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : usgoel

Further important is the optimism that people bought this stock at 800. They are holding it at 135 now. So they lost 800-135=665 per stock. You have only to lose 135 but can gain 1350. Fundamentals intact, p/e 2.5, eps 55, sound business (not like other realty businesses that totally depend on new developments, its into restructuring), Book Value 132..

I don`t know if it can go to Rs. 10 or 20 but all i know is that it will go to 1500 some day maybe after 2-4 years but it definitely will..

Happy Investing !!!

07 Oct 2008 06:19

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : usgoel
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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Further important is the optimism that people bought this stock at 800. They are holding it at 135 now. So they lost 800-135=665 per stock. You have only to lose 135 but can gain 1350. Fundamentals intact, p/e 2.5, eps 55, sound business (not like other realty businesses that totally depend on new developments, its into restructuring), Book Value 132..

I don`t know if it can go to Rs. 10 or 20 but all i know is that it will go to 1500 some day maybe after 2-4 years but it definitely will..

Happy Investing !!!...

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43

Thanks for your views. Probably the weakness in this share may be because of its being in realty sector, which as a whole look bearish.

07 Oct 2008 06:14

Buy HDIL, target of Rs 689: ICICI Securities

Posted by : usgoel
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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Hi,

I think ICICI gave wrong target of buy HDIL to target 689.. Its should have given sell HDIL to target 89 :)

Anyways, just kidding..

Well all i can say is you can lose Rs.135 and can gain Rs.1350 so choice it all yours if you wish to play this lottery or not.

Happy Investing !!!...

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Buy HDIL, target of Rs 689: ICICI Securities

Posted by : elixiroflife

Dear Avrochan,

Its already Monday now, can we please know the

06 Oct 2008 22:46

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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Thanks for your views. Probably the weakness in this share may be because of its being in realty sector, which as a whole look bearish....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs

yes. i do agree, it has solid fundamentals. its a real value buy in the current market melt down. but it can touch 120-125 levels also. thats the short term problem. we don`t know whether there is any accounting problems in computing the BV 132. how to believe this management. all the housing sector related companies are going to face the music next 2 years. so this stock may well go down further dude. don`t be so optimistic.

icici securities is not a good brokerage. they have gone wrong more number of times than they got it right. HDIL is under a severe bear grip. i have not seen any stock fall like this one stock fell in the last 10 years of my experience.

its sad to see this good company stock price fall like this. hope the management is good and there are no computing problems and accounting misstatements. then we can assume the BV of 132 as correct which has to support the stock price.

its a shame to see its PE at 2.5 and really surprising. i can`t understand how it can be trading at so low levels. i feel if the results are good it can go upto 300. thats a whopping 100% plus kind of returns. just hold the stock or even buy more in this crashing situation.

swamy.

06 Oct 2008 22:42

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : psgs
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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yes. i do agree, it has solid fundamentals. its a real value buy in the current market melt down. but it can touch 120-125 levels also. thats the short term problem. we don`t know whether there is any accounting problems in computing the BV 132. how to believe this management. all the housing sector related companies are going to face the music next 2 years. so this stock may well go down further dude. don`t be so optimistic.

icici securities is not a good brokerage. they have gone wrong more number of times than they got it right. HDIL is under a severe bear grip. i have not seen any stock fall like this one stock fell in the last 10 years of my experience.

its sad to see this good company stock price fall like this. hope the management is good and there are no computing problems and accounting misstatements. then we can assume the BV of 132 as correct which has to support the stock price.

its a shame to see its PE at 2.5 and really surprising. i can`t understand how it can be trading at so low levels. i feel if the results are good it can go upto 300. thats a whopping 100% plus kind of returns. just hold the stock or even buy more in this crashing situation.

swamy.
...

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : avrochan

It is near to its bottom, touching nearly to its book value. Have confidence, you will see a fire cracker move upwards. Pl Hold it. It is a select pick with strong fundamentals and values in realty space. Accummulate if it further comes down to book value and then look at it after a week.

06 Oct 2008 21:16

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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is there any possibility of coming below 100?...

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : avrochan

It is near to its bottom, touching nearly to its book value. Have confidence, you will see a fire cracker move upwards. Pl Hold it. It is a select pick with strong fundamentals and values in realty space. Accummulate if it further comes down to book value and then look at it after a week.

06 Oct 2008 16:51

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : avrochan
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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It is near to its bottom, touching nearly to its book value. Have confidence, you will see a fire cracker move upwards. Pl Hold it. It is a select pick with strong fundamentals and values in realty space. Accummulate if it further comes down to book value and then look at it after a week....

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HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : MMB Messenger

HDIL has touched a 52-week low of Rs 137.60. At 3:51 pm, the share was quoting at Rs 139.00, down Rs 23.7, or 14.57%. It was trading with volumes of 1,571,836 shares. On Friday the share closed down 2.72% or Rs 4.55 at Rs 162.70.

06 Oct 2008 16:51

HDIL loses further ground

Posted by : MMB Messenger
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 138.75 ( -14.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 138.60 ( -14.79 % )
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HDIL has touched a 52-week low of Rs 137.60. At 3:51 pm, the share was quoting at Rs 139.00, down Rs 23.7, or 14.57%. It was trading with volumes of 1,571,836 shares. On Friday the share closed down 2.72% or Rs 4.55 at Rs 162.70....

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