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Relance may not fall below 1000....
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sankarcjPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 1527.00 ( -7.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 1527.60 ( -7.34 % )
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Yesteday when huge selling was happening, Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the news man which appeared in the boarder that the market won\`t fall below 10000 levels. Exactly it happend and stayed above. But he continued to see further fall if mutual funds atars redemption.If it happens from Indian Mutual funds then the market may move to 9000 levles which will be holding the bottom space.He is so positive on Reliance shares.He see the RPL +ve if falling continues too.He was the one first said the RPL will cross Essaroil soon, it happend. In the coming bounces you may see the RPL crosses Cairn buy december 2009 and stand above 350 Rs.......
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Relance may not fall below 1000....
Posted by : bhusbhac
Dear knair - There are too many ifs in your arguments. The dangerous side is not that dangeous anymore. 50% downfall for the NIFTY from 6200+ was 3000+ points. A 50% fall from resent levels is a little over 1500.
Whatever has been lost because of our bullish nature is lost and bygone. For very loss of Rs 1,00,000/- we need to invest maximum Rs 1,00,000/- risk free. I expect this recovery within 12 months maybe it will extend to 24 months or a little more. We can exand our investment from the profits along the way. Then whatever we lost in the past the residue will also appreicate and that will be our windfall profit.
I am preparing for the market to go down well below 3000 because of the 90 billion US$ of the 280 billion US$ still in our markets. So who on this board will be giving out signals with proof and avidence? I still suggest a 20% projected investment on Monday and a further 20% on every level of 200 pts on NIFTY broken below 3000. You may be lucky if the market holds or keeps coming back at the current levels in case the NIFTY has bottomed out. So learn to recognise the bottomm when it happens and happen it MUST! 
Falling up to 9000 will happen in Oct itself : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA
Posted by : sankarcjPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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Yesteday when huge selling was happening, Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the news man which appeared in the boarder that the market won\`t fall below 10000 levels. Exactly it happend and stayed above. But he continued to see further fall if mutual funds atars redemption.If it happens from Indian Mutual funds then the market may move to 9000 levles which will be holding the bottom space.He is so positive on Reliance shares.He see the RPL +ve if falling continues too.He was the one first said the RPL will cross Essaroil soon, it happend. In the coming bounces you may see the RPL crosses Cairn buy december 2009 and stand above 350 Rs.......
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Falling up to 9000 will happen in Oct itself : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA
Posted by : sankarcj
Yesteday when huge selling was happening, Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the news man which appeared in the boarder that the market won\\`t fall below 10000 levels. Exactly it happend and stayed above. But he continued to see further fall if mutual funds atars redemption.If it happens from Indian Mutual funds then the market may move to 9000 levles which will be holding the bottom space.He is so positive on Reliance shares.He see the RPL +ve if falling continues too.He was the one first said the RPL will cross Essaroil soon, it happend. In the coming bounces you may see the RPL crosses Cairn buy december 2009 and stand above 350 Rs....
Falling up to 9000 will happen in Oct itself : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA
Posted by : sankarcjPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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Yesteday when huge selling was happening, Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the news man which appeared in the boarder that the market won\\`t fall below 10000 levels. Exactly it happend and stayed above. But he continued to see further fall if mutual funds atars redemption.If it happens from Indian Mutual funds then the market may move to 9000 levles which will be holding the bottom space.He is so positive on Reliance shares.He see the RPL +ve if falling continues too.He was the one first said the RPL will cross Essaroil soon, it happend. In the coming bounces you may see the RPL crosses Cairn buy december 2009 and stand above 350 Rs.......
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Googol
The correction will be quick if MMB mod IS (read postscript) entrusted with that job.. (just fun.. no offence please !!)..for that another mass prayer needed?
PS I have NOT forgotten to type word `NOT` after the word `IS`...
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Oh God!
Posted by :
googol
0806
Respected Lord,
I think there is a communication gap between YOU and me.
What I prayed last October was
`Please take Teledata to blue chips level, within a year`
and
NOT
`Please take all blue chips to Teledata level, within a year`
Kindly correct your records asap
Thanks and Pranams,
Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : knairPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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googol,
You are right, Sir.
And one more thing - troubled times are the best for looking into
Gita, Ramayana, Sastras, Vedas - where we get time to do so when the mkt is fully bullish.
During the last 4 years I must have booked 3 to 4 L profits (I really did not check the figures to say it accurately) and I was happy. Not only happy but was thinking - what a fantastic achievement
Now if I look back I may be in red for more than what I earned. The red getting deeper also. It gives me no bad thinking. I just laugh at it and say to myself - what a fantastic achievement!
The coin does not exist only with one side.
knair
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Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : googol
1104
Vkk ji,
HE,the creator of bull,bear,us and US, only knows the answer.
Kayena vacha manasendriyairva
Buddhyatmana va prakrite swabhavath
Karomi yadyad sakalam parasmai
Narayanayeti samarpayami
Regards,
Relance may not fall below 1000....
Posted by : bhusbhacPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 1527.00 ( -7.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 1527.60 ( -7.34 % )
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Dear knair - There are too many ifs in your arguments. The dangerous side is not that dangeous anymore. 50% downfall for the NIFTY from 6200+ was 3000+ points. A 50% fall from resent levels is a little over 1500.
Whatever has been lost because of our bullish nature is lost and bygone. For very loss of Rs 1,00,000/- we need to invest maximum Rs 1,00,000/- risk free. I expect this recovery within 12 months maybe it will extend to 24 months or a little more. We can exand our investment from the profits along the way. Then whatever we lost in the past the residue will also appreicate and that will be our windfall profit.
I am preparing for the market to go down well below 3000 because of the 90 billion US$ of the 280 billion US$ still in our markets. So who on this board will be giving out signals with proof and avidence? I still suggest a 20% projected investment on Monday and a further 20% on every level of 200 pts on NIFTY broken below 3000. You may be lucky if the market holds or keeps coming back at the current levels in case the NIFTY has bottomed out. So learn to recognise the bottomm when it happens and happen it MUST!...
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Relance may not fall below 1000....
Posted by : knair
vkk43,
No doubt that we are in bear mkt. Once we are in, getting out of it is not so an easy task. It may take time, time which nobody is sure of predicting.
As regards RIL, I will be a happy man if it not falls below 999. But if falls, we are nobody to stop it but to become a witness of it. A witness of seeing the mkt falling to 7500 level too.
We don`t want to see it, so we say that it is not going to happen.
But when it happens, it is to happen. If it does not happen, we got thousands of panic sellers ready to make it happen. The channels are bringing out sensationalised headlines. They are also selling, their products, in form of sensationalisation.
Let us come back to RIL. It is the strongest stock in the mkt. Its weightage is too high. Anything happens to it can make the mkt to be affected. ICICI fell from 1465 to 327. With it, mkt also fell to certain percentage. Both put together, they carry 30% weightage in the mkt fall. Another 3 more stocks- L&T, Infy and Airtel- also carry huge weightage and if they also fall, sensex can break the past records.
Sensex is seen with these stocks but they are not representing the real picture. But most of us are only looking into it?
The number game is dangerous.
knair
TRUST ME THE MARKET WILL NOT FALL BELOW 10000: C.J.MATHEWS, MBA
Posted by : sankarcjPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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Yesteday when huge selling was happening, Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA told the news man which appeared in the boarder that the market won\`t fall below 10000 levels. Exactly it happend and stayed above. But he continued to see further fall if mutual funds atars redemption.If it happens from Indian Mutual funds then the market may move to 9000 levles which will be holding the bottom space.He is so positive on Reliance shares.He see the RPL +ve if falling continues too.He was the one first said the RPL will cross Essaroil soon, it happend. In the coming bounces you may see the RPL crosses Cairn buy december 2009 and stand above 350 Rs.......
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TRUST ME THE MARKET WILL NOT FALL BELOW 10000: C.J.MATHEWS, MBA
Posted by : avrochan
Yes not to buy now is the right solution. Friday when U.S. recovered a bit from deep, the optimistic investors commented market is returning. U.S is in a bad position and is on the edge of severe recession which will be history - a world war type. There is no any immediate miracle in such conditions other than a one day recovery. My advice is not to listen to any analysts buy recomm at this stage. There is going to be further steep fall - Watch for a bottom of 66-67 in RPL, ofcourse future is very bright when situation normalizes. I am observing the senior Indian analysts recomms couple of weeks back giving support level to stock, and saw prices falling like thundering storms, even 1/3rd in last 10-15 days. Still I see some vested interest analysts giving recommendation, ICICI has investment in HDIL and ICICI gave a strong buy call when price was 230 for a target of 690/-, horrible to see the stock falling to 91 yesterday!!!! SO AVOID ANY BUY AND SAVE YOUR WHATEVER IS LEFT. There is nothing blue. Is C.J Mathews a magician to say index dont fall below 10,000 when there is nothing to support the market fall.
Decoupling days are coming ahead.........
Posted by : treasureddhanPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 25.00 ( -18.57 % ), NSE: Rs. 25.15 ( -18.21 % )
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US has acted and not they are facing the reaction. Other countries never Acted and hence there is no reaction for others. The sins American has committed so far , they have to face the tune and answer to GOD....
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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........
Posted by : knair
treassureddhan,
What a remark! "is this the beginning of the end of US"
Lot of damages are happening in US. Jungle fire, storms, earthquakes, terror attacks - but they are capable of taking care of them all.
I don`t know with what sense you have mentioned it. If it is intentional, I can only say - an action produces a reaction. In that sense, when we are happy for bad things happenened in other places with which we have an irrational relationship, it can rebounce and happen to us also. Even everyday life events prove it.
Let good things happen there. The livelihood of many people comes from there.
If you don`t mean what I presume, please excuse me.
knair
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MALAYALI,
Please dont make such comments considering blue chips have become penny stocks in America, penny stocks can become blue chips in India.
The way u say things, it almost seems like an ultimatum. You place so much emphasis and feel ur statements are so profound. Your Ego is so transparent in ur messages....
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Query
Posted by : MALAYALI
MALAYALI here. Mr. bvnrao... MALAYALIs advice *****LONG TERM PENNY STOCK INVESTORS ARE FOOLS*****. That`s all. MALAYALI : investors guide
Payment for Ranbaxy.
Posted by :
mehtabrijeshPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 292.40 ( 4.71 % ), NSE: Rs. 293.25 ( 5.05 % )
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Actually i am from Ranbaxy Head Office. ...
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Payment for Ranbaxy.
Posted by : bullish9000
hello sir,
thanks for the valuable information but what is the source of information . i mean to say economic times ,CNBC, or NDTV profit.
pls clarify
regards
Relance may not fall below 1000....
Posted by : knairPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 1527.00 ( -7.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 1527.60 ( -7.34 % )
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vkk43,
thank you for your reply.
The last sentence "weakness is much more than what appears in the weakness of sensex" indicates the correct picture.
knair...
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Relance may not fall below 1000....
Posted by : vkk43
Thanks for your views. U r right, nobody can predict as to when the bear market will end.
ICICI has already fallen a lot. Still weakness persists. L&T and Infy will remain weak going forward. L&T management has stated as per newspaper reports that they are facing problems in getting fresh orders. Infy guidance will make it weak also.
So far RIL is concerned, it has been relatively steady. Whether it will go to 999 or not, nothing can be said at this moment.
Of course sensex is not depicting correct picture of the market. Weakness is much more than what appears in the weakness of sensex.
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MALAYALI here. Mr. bvnrao... MALAYALIs advice *****LONG TERM PENNY STOCK INVESTORS ARE FOOLS*****. That`s all. MALAYALI : investors guide...
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Query
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bvnrao
I invested four lakhs of my hard earned money in cybermate Info
on 15 th Jan 2008.I purchased 25,000 shares at Rs.16. Now my investment has
come down to Rs.50,000.Will I get back my investment? I will wait for any long time.I am greatly obliged if any body can throw some light on this company.
bvnrao
Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : vkk43Price when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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Yes agreed, only HE knows the answer. Whether HE will oblige anybody is the main question??...
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Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : googol
1104
Vkk ji,
HE,the creator of bull,bear,us and US, only knows the answer.
Kayena vacha manasendriyairva
Buddhyatmana va prakrite swabhavath
Karomi yadyad sakalam parasmai
Narayanayeti samarpayami
Regards,
Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : googolPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 115.95 ( -5.15 % ), NSE: Rs. 116.25 ( -5.02 % )
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1104
Vkk ji,
HE,the creator of bull,bear,us and US, only knows the answer.
Kayena vacha manasendriyairva
Buddhyatmana va prakrite swabhavath
Karomi yadyad sakalam parasmai
Narayanayeti samarpayami
Regards,
...
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Cues from FnO: Short term bounce?
Posted by : vkk43
Now the main problem is when the dust will settle. Every week we are getting bad news.
Now all analysts on CNBC have started talking about LT as 2=3 years. Today I heard Shri SP Tulshian and Shri Gul talking to Shri Pradeep of Aawaz channel. At the end of their conversation, Shri Pradeep asked them whether we can expect market to improve within next 2-3 years. To this their reply was if market does not improve even within next 2-3 years, then we all are ........
It means in ST we have to bear this pain. If we believe in past, then whenever an investor has invested his money during such bear phases, he had earned a lot from the market after sometime. This time, I think, it should not be different. Time horizon may be a little more this time. Thanks.
RILTarget 1330 at 10 PE = Rs 133 EPS
Posted by : bhusbhacPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 1527.00 ( -7.43 % ), NSE: Rs. 1527.60 ( -7.34 % )
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Udayan Mukherjee stated that the current PE of RIL was around 15 and that typically bear markets tend to bottom out around 10 PE and in worst case 9 PE. There seems to be an error in reporting here since their own website shows the current PE at around 11 and RIL is definitely not the 9 PE class.
The EPS of RIL for 2007-08 was Rs 133 per share and so at 1330 it would strike the 10 PE DELIVERED! It would certainly translate to 9 PE for 2008-09. To be fair expect EPS of RIL for 2008-09 to be Rs 150 in which case the share price has certainly bottomed out in the current context. There have not been any block deals below the 1400 mark so this can be a minimum guidance valuation. On retail level Rs 1500 is much more than fair.
We have not assumed the new oil and gas production which is slated to start in the 4th quarter.
Now project a conservative growth of 20% over 2000-10 from a more than fair probability of 35% to 50%.
Whatever happens the annualised returns of RIL share value will not be less than 10% which any investor in India will be willing to take a chance for a probability that the share price will rise by 35% to 50% from the Indian point of view. There are going to be several positives that will be further released in our economy from the immediate future. Soon FIIs will have the safety factor assurance that they are waiting for.
Translated to the FII point of view a 10% minimum return with a further possibility that Indian Rupee might appreciate another 10% in the following year. So at any point of time once world markets stabilise RIL will minimum double to 3000.
RIL outperformed the NIFTY until the past ten sessions where RIL has underperformed due to the capitulation effect so on the way up there are lots of reasons that it will outperform the NIFTY.
So this message goes out to all the brave and courageous Indians to go ahead and buy. Risks at least on RIL is almost NIL as per the calcs above!
If someone can defeat the calculations above please do come on this board and present your arguments....
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