While christians and their religious head Pope has all the freedom to do what ever they like with their cononisation process and other religious matters concerning their religion let them not interfere with others and especailly through their socalled missionaries for converting people to their own belief by propagating wantonly thier own propaganda materails which are really materialistic. Their weapons to convert seems to be material benefits offered to the converts like money and in kind.At the same time they can try better to make their home safe for them and heir belief than trying to convert others also as many unwanted things are being heard about their institutions of late....

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What made Hindus angry in Karnataka


François GautierFirst Published : 06 Oct 2008 02:12:00 AM ISTLast Updated : 06 Oct 2008 07:40:54 AM ISTI WAS born in a Catholic family. My uncle was a priest, a wonderful man of warmth and compassion and I spent most my early years in Catholic boarding schools. When I was young I wanted to become a missionary and to ‘convert’ pagans in Asia. What I was taught by priests was that Hindus worship false gods and they needed to be brought back to the True Word by Jesus Christ.


Then of course, I came to India and discovered that actually Hindus, far from being the heathens, as had been portrayed in Europe, not only believed God’s diversity, the wonderful concept of avatar, but had given refuge to all persecuted minorities of the world, whether the Syrian Christians, the Parsis, the Jews (India is the only country in the world where Jews were not persecuted), the Armenians, or today the Tibetans.

I am also aghast at the one-sided coverage by the Indian media of the Christian- Hindu problem: blasts after blasts have killed hundreds of innocent Hindus in Varanasi, Delhi, Mumbai train blasts, Jaipur, etc. Yet, neither Manmohan Singh nor Sonia Gandhi have pronounced once the word ‘Islamic terrorism.’ But when furious Hindus, tired of being made fun of, of witnessing their brothers and sisters converted by financials traps, of seeing a 84-year-old swami and his Mataji brutally murdered, of reading blasphemy about their Gods, vent their anger against churches, many of them makeshifts, the Indian government goes after the soft target which the Hindus are. The same thing applies to the United States: they never warned Muslim organisations in India about the killing of Hindus, but when dollars are used to buy new converts and it angers the majority community of India,Washington has the arrogance to issue a warning, and Manmohan Singh does not have the pride to tell the US to mind its own business.

Neither the Indian press nor the western correspondents bothered to write about what made Hindus angry in Karnataka: Newlife, one important westernfunded missionary centre ( http://www.newlifevoice.org), began making conversions in and around Mangalore by accosting poor people in market areas, or in bus stands, befriending them and then taking them to churches to introduce them to the father.

Upon introduction they were paid Rs 2,500 per person and then taken to the Velankanni shrine, in Tamil Nadu, where they would get another Rs. 3,000.

When they finally converted to Christianity by changing the name, they got an incentive of Rs 10,000 onwards.

Newlife would then give them instructions to abandon wearing tilak on forehead, not to visit and offer prayers at the Hindu temples, replacing the photos and idols of Hindu gods and goddesses with a Cross, etc.

But what really angered local Hindus was when Newlife went one step further and published a book in Kannada — Satya Darshini — which was widely distributed by its missionaries. Here below is the translation of some of the most abusive passages: “Urvashi — the daughter of Lord Vishnu — is a prostitute.

Vashistha is the son of this prostitute.

He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48).

When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers (page 50). It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita.

“Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39).

When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others? The projection of them as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39). God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods. (Page 39).” When blasphemy and much worse is brought against the most sacred Hindu Gods, Hindus are supposed to take it meekly as sheep and let themselves be converted to a foreign religion! There are more than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries involved in conversion activities across different states.

In Tripura, there were no Christians at the time of independence. There are 1,20,000 today, a 90 per cent increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1,710 Christians in 1961, but 1.2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming up every day in far-flung villages and there was even an attempt to set up one near Tirupati.

Christians throughout the ages have strived on the concept of persecution and as a brought up Catholic, I remember feeling bad about all those martyred saints of Christianity. Christians in India like to say that they are only two per cent and can do no harm. But it is a sham: in the Tamil Nadu coastal...

I am reposting the same here.

Letter to the Teacher from a Parent

The Following Letter was written by Abraham Lincoln to the Headmaster of the School in which his son was studying.

HE will have to learn, I Know, that all men are not just, all men are not true. But teach him also that for every scoundrel there is a hero; that every selfish politician, there is a dedicated leader.
Teach him that for every enemy there is a friend.
Teach him that every Dollar earned is of far more value than Five found.
Teach him to learn to lose and also to enjoy winning.
Steer him away from envy, if you can.
Teach him the secret of quite laughter. Teach him he wonder of books; but also give him quiet time to ponder the eternal mystery of birds in the sky, bees in the sun, and flowers on a green hillside
In school teach him it is far more honorable to fail than to cheat.
Teach him to have faith in his own ideas, even if everyone is getting on a bandwagon.
Teach him to listen to all men, but teach him also to filter all he hears on a screen of truth and take only the good that comes through.
Teach him how to laugh when he is sad. Teach him there is no shame in tears.
Teach him to close his ears to a howling mob; and to stand and fight if he thinks he is right.
Teach him gently, but do not cuddle him, because only the test of fire makes fine steel.
Let him have the courage to be impatient, let him have the patience to be brave.
Teach him always to have sublime faith in his Creator and faith in himself too, because then he will always have faith in mankind.
This is a big order, but please see what you can do.
He is such a fine little fellow, My son.

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This message I have posted yesterday by mistake in `NewsMakers...

++Letter to the Teacher from a Parent

++The Following Letter was written by Abraham Lincoln to the Headmaster of the School in which his son was studying.

+++++HE will have to learn, I Know, that all men are not just, all men are not true. But teach him also that for every scoundrel there is a hero; that for every selfish politician, there is a dedicated leader.
Teach him that for every enemy there is a friend.
Teach him that every Dollar earned is of far more value than Five found.
Teach him to learn to lose and also to enjoy winning.
Steer him away from envy, if you can.
Teach him the secret of quite laughter. Teach him he wonder of books; but also give him quiet time to ponder the eternal mystery of birds in the sky, bees in the sun, and flowers on a green hillside
In school teach him it is far more honorable to fail than to cheat.
Teach him to have faith in his own ideas, even if everyone is getting on a bandwagon.
Teach him to listen to all men, but teach him also to filter all he hears on a screen of truth and take only the good that comes through.
Teach him how to laugh when he is sad. Teach him there is no shame in tears.
Teach him to close his ears to a howling mob; and to stand and fight if he thinks he is right.
Teach him gently, but do not cuddle him, because only the test of fire makes fine steel.
Let him have the courage to be impatient, let him have the patience to be brave.
Teach him always to have sublime faith in his Creator and faith in himself too, because then he will always have faith in mankind.
This is a big order, but please see what you can do.
He is such a fine little fellow, My son.
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Let us have someone like him inthe Prime Minsiter`s chair. The man who was driven out from West Bengal has drove in to Gujarat. That is the situation there and we want all India to be like that for the country`s upliftment....

Thank you Moderator, At least now because of your reply we know that you are on the job and we are SURE you will find out some remedy for this. Please also see whether there is any flaw in the system where some body can intrude in another boarders account and home page. I think this is happening.And like that about people using similar IDs of existing boarders also especially to malign them. Please look into all thee things in detail. Thank you once again....

HI Pillai, These are the hooligans Not the average Hindu They degrade the faith of Hindus and name calling I have one question to them How can a virgin give birth? If they can believe that Why Hindus cannot believe what they want? ...

Hey K.N.Pillai....... This is shameful and atrocious on the part of Christian fundamentalists..... Even the so called Jesus Christe whom they are worshipping will spit on the faces of these fundamentalists for this heinous crime..Time the pseudo secular Congress govt..at centre wake up as otherwise they will be thrown out......Thanks&Regds...

dear KNP What you have received by e-mail appeared as an Article in the New Indian Express recently. The cause of the unrest in Karnataka and Orissa is crystal clear, if you want to recognise it. AND this unrest will automatically cease, even permenently, if the following is agreed and implemented. 1. Stop the religious conversions - foreign evengelists taking undue advantage of the county`s secular credentials to undermine its very base. It is a multi national business venture only. In a free society, there is no bar to learning the good aspects of other religions, without going through forcible conversions and breaking up of family and society. 2. Hold it as a crime publishing hate literature of the type the missionaries are dishing out. You will find that there will be total reciprocation from the majority. ARG...

I am reposting the same here. Letter to the Teacher from a Parent The Following Letter was written by Abraham Lincoln to the Headmaster of the School in which his son was studying. HE will have to learn, I Know, that all men are not just, all men are not true. But teach him also that for every scoundrel there is a hero; that every selfish politician, there is a dedicated leader. Teach him that for every enemy there is a friend. Teach him that every Dollar earned is of far more value than Five found. Teach him to learn to lose and also to enjoy winning. Steer him away from envy, if you can. Teach him the secret of quite laughter. Teach him he wonder of books; but also give him quiet time to ponder the eternal mystery of birds in the sky, bees in the sun, and flowers on a green hillside In school teach him it is far more honorable to fail than to cheat. Teach him to have faith in his own ideas, even if everyone is getting on a bandwagon. Teach him to listen to all men, but teach him also to filter all he hears on a screen of truth and take only the good that comes through. Teach him how to laugh when he is sad. Teach him there is no shame in tears. Teach him to close his ears to a howling mob; and to stand and fight if he thinks he is right. Teach him gently, but do not cuddle him, because only the test of fire makes fine steel. Let him have the courage to be impatient, let him have the patience to be brave. Teach him always to have sublime faith in his Creator and faith in himself too, because then he will always have faith in mankind. This is a big order, but please see what you can do. He is such a fine little fellow, My son. ...

don`t propogate your culture of violence......

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Hi K.N.Pillai16968, We are very sorry for the trouble, we are aware of the problem and are looking into it, we request you to please bear with us. -MMB Moderator ...