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Market Outlook - Short Term
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Hi coolboy007,
Its so dangerous trading the way you are doing - I will trade my puts at 2.45 pm ? And what if there is a small gap down in the morning and a huge rally in the afternoon. Can you imagine the condition of your put then. If you cannot follow your trade regularly, its better to avoid it and better to do delivery only. Because in futures and options, we have to wait whole day for that particular two or five minutes in a day when things change radically. That is the point where we day traders strike and make our kill. I am not saying we will surely rally tomorrow, but since we are oversold on the charts, a rally is long overdue. Max I think we can see is 3705 to 3800 this week. take care,
lovemeall26...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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coolboy007
Thanks lovemeall sir.
I would come back from school around 2:45pm so whatever rate would be prevailing would have to sell pe at that. So by your guidance i feel that now you are expecting a bounceback in nifty. Thats good for my longs.
Can you give an approx target where i should be booking profits in my longs.
Thanks sir
Rajat.
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Hello vam_aru,
Yes its getting worse with two more small banks gone down the drain. Not only that, in Iceland, they have closed down the stock markets and in Italy, they have suspended trading in many stocks due to excessive losses. Next I think Pakistan will also close down its stock exchange. Who would imagine in january this year at the peak of the bull run, that things would come to such a pass in just nine months down the road. trade with caution.
lovemeall26...
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vam_aru
Dear Lovemeall26,
Two more snmall banks fail, That brings a total to 15 Banks failure, Let see if this is not playing a dampener again in DOW markets...? and yesterday what a volatility it witnessed, 1000 points volatility from Low to high, ( 7882 to 8900 ).
Investors need to find a way to protect their portfolios...
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Dear BSR,
The levels you have indicated are quite possible as the smart have already finished,off loading their holdings and the weak have started the process just now,to enable the smart to re enter
Regards,
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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BullSheetRules
Dear lovemeall26,
In my BS opinion, You have explained different situations correctly.
Just for info: I am SHORT on Nifty! :)
Over a longer time frame, I expect Nifty continue to come down and stablise under 3000 level unless DOW make some kind of immediate UPTREND above 10000 level.
You may find a bit SCARY to know what kind of level I am looking for building those LT investment portfolio. :) Just to give an idea: IFCI about 12-15 level, Nagarjuna around 12-14 level, Renuka around 18-22 level.
If I do not see those counters coming to my price level target, then I will PLAY as per PLAYers PLAYing the GAME!
This is like I will invest in a new home in real estate only when a flat of 1 crore CRASH to a price of 20 lakhs first and then will see the new developments / situtations! :)
I hope that clears some BS points as far as building those LT investments are concerned!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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I expect that Sensex will surely touch 9000 till 16.10.2008 and then will start recovery. initially there may be sharp bounce and will retest this level of 9000 , there after may start establizing. Upmove not expected during 2008, however consolidation is expected in Nov & Dec in the range of 9000 -10000. the sentiments has so badly shaken that smart money will not return in the market so early.
Let us see what happens ...
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hindlevernet
Dear vam,
Bears have taken their toll. No serious slide in Dow
anymore. It may not fall below 7500. It touched 7883
on Friday.
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Good useful post in ur page.
regrads
shakti...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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vam_aru
Dear Shakti,
Yeah you are right , Even if we try to reach the level of 3800, investors will start booking profits and drag the index lower, so the consolidation activity to occur for 3 to 9 months.
for this I have posted one strategy under "Market Outlook - Medium Term", the Title is "How to play markets for 3 to 9 Months ?" , and the same has been updated in my homepage also.
Please have a look and let me know your views, your suggestions are welcome..
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Dear BSR,
do you feel the global scenario is stabilizing or still worsening.This week will be definitely a decisive week, guided by Monday.
If the Fib Low of 10059 breaks and followed by the second support of 9892 breaks this week, no blood will be there to be shed. More than 40% of retail investors will be out of the market forever.
regards
shakti...
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BullSheetRules
Dear sp.palo,
I follow combination of TA, FA and Sentiments and PLAY as per the PLAYers PLAYing the GAME! :)
For me, Stock market or for that matter, any market is a GAME of Real Money!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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ok vam. I will definitely check that out.
regards
shakti...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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vam_aru
Dear Shakti,
Yeah you are right , Even if we try to reach the level of 3800, investors will start booking profits and drag the index lower, so the consolidation activity to occur for 3 to 9 months.
for this I have posted one strategy under "Market Outlook - Medium Term", the Title is "How to play markets for 3 to 9 Months ?" , and the same has been updated in my homepage also.
Please have a look and let me know your views, your suggestions are welcome..
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Dear Shakti,
Yeah you are right , Even if we try to reach the level of 3800, investors will start booking profits and drag the index lower, so the consolidation activity to occur for 3 to 9 months.
for this I have posted one strategy under "Market Outlook - Medium Term", the Title is "How to play markets for 3 to 9 Months ?" , and the same has been updated in my homepage also.
Please have a look and let me know your views, your suggestions are welcome.....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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sp.palo
hai vam,
it will take months for nifty to reach 3800 levels.
shakti
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hai vam,
it will take months for nifty to reach 3800 levels.
shakti...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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vam_aru
The markets resistance level is now become 3800 for NIFTY, I feel 3800 can not be breached in the near term...
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Dear BSR,
Good Morning. This diwali everyone is sad. One of my friend`s portfolio is 90% down. He is in panic. Mine also 50-60% down. I am trying to average them. Its all because of FII selling. I dunno who has let these dogs out.
But, things are going to change gradually atleast for India. Nifty may not go below 3000 soon.
regards
shakti...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
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BullSheetRules
Dear sp.palo,
I follow combination of TA, FA and Sentiments and PLAY as per the PLAYers PLAYing the GAME! :)
For me, Stock market or for that matter, any market is a GAME of Real Money!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Barclays, RBS in debt double whammy
HSBC Holdings Plc, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc and the biggest UK banks face the most debt coming due in at least 10 years as the credit market seizure raises borrowing costs to the highest on record.
The six largest British banks have 54 billion pounds ($95 billion) of debt to refinance by April, triple the amount of the year-ago period, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. HSBC, the U.K.’s biggest bank, and RBS each have about 11.5 billion pounds of debt due, while Barclays Plc has 15.9 billion pounds maturing, the data show.
Financing costs are soaring as banks hoard cash after the credit crunch triggered by the US subprime mortgage crisis a year ago. The three-month London interbank offered rate in dollars rose to 4.52% from 2.64% in March, while the equivalent rate for euros increased to a record 5.39%, from 4.74% six months ago. “The banks have no idea how they are going to manage rolling over their debt,” Kornelius Purps, a Munich-based bond strategist at UniCredit SpA, said before Wednesday’s coordinated interest-rate cuts. “The central banks will have to intervene.”
The Bank of England was among central banks to lower rates today in a worldwide action to stave off a recession. Bank borrowing costs rose this month even as the UK announced a cash injection to the banking system, Europe’s policy makers provided emergency funding and US President George W Bush approved a $700 billion rescue plan. Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s government will invest about 50 billion pounds in the UK’s banks, the Treasury said.
HSBC and Standard Chartered Plc said they have no current plans to take government capital to bolster their reserves.
RBS and Barclays will be taking up aspects of the plan, they said in statements. Lloyds TSB Group Plc, which has about 512 million pounds of bonds to refinance by the end of March, said it will make a futher announcement about the plan “in due course.”
Banks need more capital after the worst US housing slump since the great depression and $593 billion in worldwide losses and writedowns caused their stocks to tumble, forced Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc into bankruptcy and pushed the UK government to nationalise Bradford & Bingley Plc.
The UK bank debt includes bonds, commercial paper and equity-linked notes and compares with 18 billion pounds repaid in the year-earlier period.
—Bloomberg
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No one is too big not to fall
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sambala
Sensex posts biggest weekly fall in 18 yrs
The benchmark Sensex tumbled 7 per cent on Friday and posted its biggest weekly fall in nearly 18 years as panicky investors joined a global selloff on recession worries, with weak industrial data adding to the gloom
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Sensex posts biggest weekly fall in 18 yrs
The benchmark Sensex tumbled 7 per cent on Friday and posted its biggest weekly fall in nearly 18 years as panicky investors joined a global selloff on recession worries, with weak industrial data adding to the gloom
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Mazda says no decision on sale of Ford`s stake
Mazda denied Saturday that a decision had been made by troubled Ford Motor Co. to sell its stake in the Japanese automaker, but didn`t rule out a possible deal.
Japanese media reported Saturday that Ford was considering selling its one-third stake in Hiroshima-based Mazda Motor Corp. Public broadcaster NHK, without citing sources, reported that Ford would maintain some of its stake in Mazda and management ties.
"Nothing has been decided," Mazda said in a statement received Saturday. "Any important decision will be disclosed."
Dearborn, Michigan-based Ford said in a statement, "We do not want to comment on speculation."
"Our relationship with Mazda has not changed," Ford said.
The move, should it happen, would be a symbolic retreat for U.S. automakers in Japan. General Motors Corp. similarly sold off its stakes in Japanese automakers in recent years.
Selling shares of Mazda, which makes the RX-8 sports car and Miata roadster, would furnish Ford with cash as it tries to turn around its business.
Ford has struggled amid a drastic downturn in U.S. auto sales, burning through nearly US$11 billion of its cash stockpile in the past year. It reported its worst-ever quarterly loss of US$8.7 billion in the second quarter.
Speculation has risen that Ford may file for bankruptcy, although it has denied that. Ford`s stock price has also suffered, plunging to its lowest level in 25 years.
Ford formed a capital alliance with Mazda in 1979, taking a 25 percent stake. That was raised to 33.4 percent in 1996 - a controlling share in Japan.
Over the last decade, Ford helped engineer a turnaround at once-struggling Mazda, sending executives and sharing technology and auto parts to cut costs.
Mazda, Japan`s fourth-biggest automaker, has been a bright spot in Ford`s otherwise-gloomy fortunes of late. Mazda posted a six-fold surge in profit in the April-June quarter.
In an interview with The Associated Press in Detroit on Friday, CEO Alan Mulally denied Ford was about to run out of cash.
Mulally did not rule out asset sales as a way to raise money, but did not refer to Mazda specifically.
"Cash is really, really important, so we are managing that very carefully," Mulally said.
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Mittal loses nearly 7 mn pounds per hour.
London : Deepening global credit crisis is taking a toll not just on financial institutions but is eroding individual wealth as well, with Britain`s richest man Lakshmi Mittal losing nearly seven million pounds per hour in the last four months, media reported in London.
"Mittal, who owns some of London`s finest homes, including two in Kensington Palace Gardens, has seen the value of the shares he and his family hold crash from 33.24 billion pounds in June, 2008 to 11.82 billion pounds today.
“Over the last four months, he has lost the equivalent of nearly 180 million pounds a day or some seven million pounds an hour," London`s newspaper Evening Standard said in a report published online on Thursday.
The India-origin chief of world`s largest steel maker ArcelorMittal has lost close to 20 billion pounds in the deepening financial turmoil, Evening Standard said.
Meanwhile, a wealth expert has also said that steel tycoon Mittal has lost an estimated 20 billion pounds owing to the tumbling stock markets and sliding property prices during the last five months.
According to Philip Beresford, the wealth expert who compiles the annual Rich List for The Sunday Times, more than 100 billion pounds would be wiped off the personal fortunes of Britain`s wealthiest industrialists and entrepreneurs in the coming months.
The losses witnessed by Mittal is much higher than others in the top 10 billionaire victims of the financial turmoil in London, compiled by Evening Standard.
Evening Standard said that apart from Mittal, another Non Resident Indian Anil Aggarwal, Chief of mining major Vedanta Resources has also seen an erosion in fortunes due to the financial crisis.
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Morgan may benefit from latest Treasury plans
U.S. mulls buying equity in banks as Morgan Stanley awaits MUFJ injection
Morgan Stanley may benefit from the U.S. Treasury`s latest plan to buy equity stakes in financial institutions as the investment bank awaits a crucial $9 billion investment from Japan`s Mitsubishi UFJ.
Late Friday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the government is developing a "standardized" program to purchase equity in "a broad array of financial institutions."
"Such a program would be designed to encourage the raising of new private capital to complement public capital," he explained in a statement.
Morgan Stanley was hit hard this week by concerns that the firm`s deal with Mitsubishi UFJ may not go through, or might have to be re-negotiated.
Shares in the investment bank slumped 60% to close below $10 this week. Less than a month ago, MUFJ
, one of Japan`s largest banks, agreed to buy 21% of Morgan Stanley, partly by buying stock in the firm at more than $25 each. The $9 billion deal is now worth almost as much as the market value of all of Morgan Stanley.
Morgan Stanley`s predicament could be eased if the Treasury agreed to complement MUFJ`s $9 billion investment by purchasing its own stake in the investment bank.
A spokeswoman for the Treasury declined to comment on specific companies on Saturday, while a Morgan Stanley spokesman didn`t immediately respond to an email seeking comment.
Vicious spiral
The collapse of rival investment bank Lehman Brothers the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history, has triggered a much broader financial crisis in recent weeks that`s begun to limit crucial short-term funding for a wide variety of companies.
Soon after Lehman`s failure, Morgan Stanley gained approval to become a bank holding company, giving it more access to direct loans from the Federal Reserve and allowing it to collect customer deposits, a more stable source of funding.
Morgan also had a $179 billion pool of cash, government bonds and other easily sellable securities at the end of August to help it survive if outside sources of money dry up.
The Mitsubishi UFJ investment will also help bolster capital and reduce leverage. That`s also being helped by Morgan`s efforts to sell assets.
Despite all these positives, Morgan Stanley`s access to funding in private markets has dwindled, sparking worries about its future viability. Those concerns fed upon themselves last week in a vicious spiral that the firm struggled to counteract.
"The Company`s cost and availability of funding have been and may continue to be adversely affected by illiquid credit markets and wider credit spreads," Morgan Stanley warned in a quarterly regulatory filing on Thursday. "Many lenders and institutional investors have reduced and, in some cases, ceased to provide funding to borrowers."
Morgan said its financing needs are satisfied for 2008. But if it can`t borrow money on acceptable terms after that, the firm said it may sell equity while pursuing other ways to raise money such as collecting more deposits, according to the filing.
In September, Morgan said it used some of its $179 billion pool to support its liquidity. The firm shrank some businesses that need lots of funding, sold some assets selectively and tapped government lending programs by pledging collateral. The pool is now smaller, but still a lot larger than it was in 2007 on average, Morgan explained.
Moody`s warning
Moody`s Investors Service warned late Thursday that it could downgrade Morgan Stanley`s ratings because an extended drop in global capital markets activity will likely cut into the firm`s revenue and profit next year and possibly beyond.
The rating agency also said that customers and investors have become concerned about wholesale investment banks like Morgan Stanley. That, in turn, has put more pressure on the firm, Moody`s noted.
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Morgan may benefit from latest Treasury plans
U.S. mulls buying equity in banks as Morgan Stanley awaits MUFJ injection
Morgan Stanley may benefit from the U.S. Treasury`s latest plan to buy equity stakes in financial institutions as the investment bank awaits a crucial $9 billion investment from Japan`s Mitsubishi UFJ.
Late Friday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the government is developing a "standardized" program to purchase equity in "a broad array of financial institutions."
"Such a program would be designed to encourage the raising of new private capital to complement public capital," he explained in a statement.
Morgan Stanley was hit hard this week by concerns that the firm`s deal with Mitsubishi UFJ may not go through, or might have to be re-negotiated.
Shares in the investment bank slumped 60% to close below $10 this week. Less than a month ago, MUFJ
, one of Japan`s largest banks, agreed to buy 21% of Morgan Stanley, partly by buying stock in the firm at more than $25 each. The $9 billion deal is now worth almost as much as the market value of all of Morgan Stanley.
Morgan Stanley`s predicament could be eased if the Treasury agreed to complement MUFJ`s $9 billion investment by purchasing its own stake in the investment bank.
A spokeswoman for the Treasury declined to comment on specific companies on Saturday, while a Morgan Stanley spokesman didn`t immediately respond to an email seeking comment.
Vicious spiral
The collapse of rival investment bank Lehman Brothers the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history, has triggered a much broader financial crisis in recent weeks that`s begun to limit crucial short-term funding for a wide variety of companies.
Soon after Lehman`s failure, Morgan Stanley gained approval to become a bank holding company, giving it more access to direct loans from the Federal Reserve and allowing it to collect customer deposits, a more stable source of funding.
Morgan also had a $179 billion pool of cash, government bonds and other easily sellable securities at the end of August to help it survive if outside sources of money dry up.
The Mitsubishi UFJ investment will also help bolster capital and reduce leverage. That`s also being helped by Morgan`s efforts to sell assets.
Despite all these positives, Morgan Stanley`s access to funding in private markets has dwindled, sparking worries about its future viability. Those concerns fed upon themselves last week in a vicious spiral that the firm struggled to counteract.
"The Company`s cost and availability of funding have been and may continue to be adversely affected by illiquid credit markets and wider credit spreads," Morgan Stanley warned in a quarterly regulatory filing on Thursday. "Many lenders and institutional investors have reduced and, in some cases, ceased to provide funding to borrowers."
Morgan said its financing needs are satisfied for 2008. But if it can`t borrow money on acceptable terms after that, the firm said it may sell equity while pursuing other ways to raise money such as collecting more deposits, according to the filing.
In September, Morgan said it used some of its $179 billion pool to support its liquidity. The firm shrank some businesses that need lots of funding, sold some assets selectively and tapped government lending programs by pledging collateral. The pool is now smaller, but still a lot larger than it was in 2007 on average, Morgan explained.
Moody`s warning
Moody`s Investors Service warned late Thursday that it could downgrade Morgan Stanley`s ratings because an extended drop in global capital markets activity will likely cut into the firm`s revenue and profit next year and possibly beyond.
The rating agency also said that customers and investors have become concerned about wholesale investment banks like Morgan Stanley. That, in turn, has put more pressure on the firm, Moody`s noted.
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GM, Chrysler held merger talks
General Motors and Chrysler LLC reportedly have been in early talks about a merger as two of the largest U.S. automakers look for new ways to cut costs as sales slump.
GM has talked recently with Cerberus Capital Management, a private-equity and hedge fund firm that owns 80.1% of Chrysler, the Wall Street Journal reported in its online edition, citing unidentified people familiar with the matter.
Cerberus proposed a swap in which GM would acquire Chrysler`s automotive operations. In return, GM would give its remaining 49% stake in GMAC to Cerberus, the newspaper said. Cerberus already owns 51% of GMAC, an auto finance and mortgage lender that`s been hit hard by the credit crisis.
The recent slump in financial markets has halted talks between GM and Cerberus, but if markets stabilize, discussions could resume quickly because both companies want to dispose of these assets quickly, the Journal added.
The New York Times, which reported the talks, said Cerberus is also meeting with other car companies such as France`s Renault SA and Japan`s Nissan Motors.
GM, Ford Motor and Chrysler, the largest automakers in the U.S., have seen sales slump as surging oil prices knocked demand for gas-guzzling SUVs and the credit crisis cuts off financing for potential buyers. GM shares slumped as much as 33% on Thursday, forcing the company to tell Reuters that it`s not considering bankruptcy.
A combination of GM and Chrysler could help the companies combat the sales slump by cutting overlapping operations. GM sees as much as $10 billion in cost-cutting if a deal happens, The Journal reported, citing an unidentified person familiar with the company`s thinking.
A Cerberus spokesman didn`t immediately return an email seeking comment on the report Saturday.
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The markets will have to go down below 7000 sensex to attract any fundamentally good buys.. cheers, Venkat, Training8m, Australia...
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