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10 Oct 2008 17:52

Dear Ritul,

It is Expected that Large Cap Oriented Funds will Perform Better in Next 1-2 years.

Continue SIP in Following

HDFC Top 200
DSPML Top 100
ICICI Infra.

Discontinue SIP in Following

Reliance GROWTH
SBI Magnum CONTRA
HDFC Prudence

Start Fresh SIP in any 2-3 of Following

Kotak-30
Sundaram Select Focus
DWS Alpha Equity Fund
DSPML Equity

If you want Midcap Fund, IDFC Premier Equity is BEST Option, otherwise IDFC Imperial Equity is GOOD Option.

No need to Invest in Reliance Growth/ RSF Equity in Current Scenario.

You may Invest in Reliance Growth / RSF Equity after 1 year by SIP.

P.C. Sharma




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re: my portfolio

Posted by : Mayekar

Dear Seniors/

I am having following portfolio of SIP MF

1. HDFC top 200
2 DSPML top 100
3 Reliance growth
4. Magnum Contra
5. HDFC prudence
6. Pru icici infrastructure

i am doing EQUAL amount SIP on multiple dates.

DSPML top 100 and magnum contra have replaced HDFC equity and Reliance vision( i stopped my sip in them after 2 yrs)

goal is to continue SIP for 3 more years .

following are my questions:

1. Should i chose a more aggressive large cap like sundaram select focus or K-30 instead of DSPML top 100 since i am already having a conservative large cap like HDFC top 200 in my portfolio

2 There is a strong temptation to chose Reliance regular savings equity fund instead of DSPML top 100 or another large cap. Reason being Reliance RSF has done better, as a fund it is still sitting on larger amounts of cash( so it can do better than others in coming period)

3 IF i chose reliance RSF i am afraid i will not have a large capo bias in my portfolio ( rel growth, Magnum contra, and Pru icici infr are not neccecarily large cap fund). Am i correct in assuming that i may not have a large cap bias by choosing relaince RSF instead of DSPML top 100

4.Ideally it would be better to have a multicap fund like DSPML equity in the portfolio . Instead i have chosen a contra fund like magnum contra. DSPML equity can still be added but then it will affect the balance of the portfolio. Pls comment

Seniors, pls guide
thank you
-Ritul

10 Oct 2008 16:59

Dear arinshare

Your investment in HDFC Equity, HDFC Equity and ICICI Pru Infra is ok, but I wont recommend further investment in Rel Vision just to average out the cost. If a fund itself is not performing there is no point in investing just to average out the cost. After all you have other better alternatives to invest.

Regds

Ashport...

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Top 5 MFs to invest in Current Market

Posted by : arinshare

Today (Sensex 10527.85, fall 800.51)on 10th Oct 2008 I have invested in HDFC Equity Rs. 2000 and ICICI pru Infrastructure Rs. 700 through their websites in order to have lowering average value. Am I wrong for investment in this scenario? If fall continues, my next target to invest in HDFC TOP 200 and Reliance Vision just to lower average cost. Since I started invested in all these funds in 2007 through SIP when sensex was at peak. Comments are solicited.

10 Oct 2008 16:54

Dear Guest

You can remain invested in DSPML TIGER but dont invest further in this fund in these times of volatility.

Regds

Ashport...

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Posted by : Guest

Do you suggest to redeem all my holding in TIGER fund Or safe to keep them and watch the performance?

Thanks..

10 Oct 2008 16:49

Today (Sensex 10527.85, fall 800.51)on 10th Oct 2008 I have invested in HDFC Equity Rs. 2000 and ICICI pru Infrastructure Rs. 700 through their websites in order to have lowering average value. Am I wrong for investment in this scenario? If fall continues, my next target to invest in HDFC TOP 200 and Reliance Vision just to lower average cost. Since I started invested in all these funds in 2007 through SIP when sensex was at peak. Comments are solicited....

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Posted by : Guest

Do you suggest to redeem all my holding in TIGER fund Or safe to keep them and watch the performance?

Thanks..

10 Oct 2008 16:27

I have read that Liquid funds are subject to capital risk, though practically it has never happened till date.
Do you think in the current situations where many financial institutions are going bust, it is possible that liquid fund NAVs go negative?
Please advise!!!
...

10 Oct 2008 16:05

Do you suggest to redeem all my holding in TIGER fund Or safe to keep them and watch the performance?

Thanks.....

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Top 5 MFs to invest in Current Market

Posted by : ashport

Dear pfquery

DSPML TIGER is a thematic/sectoral fund and one should avoid investing in such funds because if the sector is out of favour, your investment can erode very sharply. As you must be feeling now since infrastucture theme is out of favour, infrastructure based funds have been one of the biggest loser this year.

It`s better you stop further SIP in this fund and start new SIP in DSPML Top 100, a conservative large cap fund.

As far Fraklin India Prima Plus is concerned, it is a consistent perfomer and you can remain invested.

Regds

Ashport

10 Oct 2008 15:21

Dear pfquery

DSPML TIGER is a thematic/sectoral fund and one should avoid investing in such funds because if the sector is out of favour, your investment can erode very sharply. As you must be feeling now since infrastucture theme is out of favour, infrastructure based funds have been one of the biggest loser this year.

It`s better you stop further SIP in this fund and start new SIP in DSPML Top 100, a conservative large cap fund.

As far Fraklin India Prima Plus is concerned, it is a consistent perfomer and you can remain invested.

Regds

Ashport...

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Top 5 MFs to invest in Current Market

Posted by : pfquery

Hello Everyone,
Thanks to your suggestions
I invest in 4 funds in SIP.
1.DSP ML TIGER (I dont see amny people recommending ths fund. Why? If i can move to anyother fund , what can it be?)
2. franklin India Prima plus fund - i dint see anyone recommending this
3.Sundaram select focus
4.HDFC growth
I invest 2500 pm one each of this. Please suggest if i should move to someother fund.

10 Oct 2008 13:10

Hello Everyone,
Thanks to your suggestions
I invest in 4 funds in SIP.
1.DSP ML TIGER (I dont see amny people recommending ths fund. Why? If i can move to anyother fund , what can it be?)
2. franklin India Prima plus fund - i dint see anyone recommending this
3.Sundaram select focus
4.HDFC growth
I invest 2500 pm one each of this. Please suggest if i should move to someother fund....

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Top 5 MFs to invest in Current Market

Posted by : pcspune

Dear Rohit Nanda,

Investment in Following Largecap Oriented Funds may be GOOD Option.

DSPML Top 100 Equity Fund
DWS Alpha Equity Fund
HDFC GROWTH / Top 200 Fund
IDFC Imperial Equity Fund
Sundaram Select Focus Fund.

Among New Funds I am monitoring the Performance of Reliance Quant Plus Fund * ICICI Focussed Equity Fund.

P.C.Sharma

10 Oct 2008 12:14
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Dear mayekar, From ur chosen funds,

Large Cap - HDFC Top 200 & DSP ML Top 100
Mid cap - Rel. Growth
Multical - SBI Contra
Balanced - HDFC Prudence
Sectoral - IPru Infra

All the funds chosen by u r proven performers over long duration in their respective category. No need to panic. Continue investment in the same.
1. Going for more aggressive fund under large cap category `ll be a personal call.
2. Sitting on Large amount of cash, has helped RRSF to contain the fall better but at the same time, it is a dangerous sign also. The reason is U & me or any other investors r investing in RRSF for Eq. returns & not the returns generated by money market instruments by sitting on cash. If sitting on the cash is going to protect our downslide, it `ll be better to have our money in our own hands.
3. Yes RRSF `ll dilute the large cap bias of ur portfolio.
4. Plz. note for past some time, only the name of SBI is contra, otherwise the portfolio of this funds is more like an aggressive multicap fund. So again it `ll be personal choice between an aggressive fund SBI contra & a conservative fund DSP ML Eq.

Thanks

Ashal...

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re: my portfolio

Posted by : Mayekar

Dear Seniors/

I am having following portfolio of SIP MF

1. HDFC top 200
2 DSPML top 100
3 Reliance growth
4. Magnum Contra
5. HDFC prudence
6. Pru icici infrastructure

i am doing EQUAL amount SIP on multiple dates.

DSPML top 100 and magnum contra have replaced HDFC equity and Reliance vision( i stopped my sip in them after 2 yrs)

goal is to continue SIP for 3 more years .

following are my questions:

1. Should i chose a more aggressive large cap like sundaram select focus or K-30 instead of DSPML top 100 since i am already having a conservative large cap like HDFC top 200 in my portfolio

2 There is a strong temptation to chose Reliance regular savings equity fund instead of DSPML top 100 or another large cap. Reason being Reliance RSF has done better, as a fund it is still sitting on larger amounts of cash( so it can do better than others in coming period)

3 IF i chose reliance RSF i am afraid i will not have a large capo bias in my portfolio ( rel growth, Magnum contra, and Pru icici infr are not neccecarily large cap fund). Am i correct in assuming that i may not have a large cap bias by choosing relaince RSF instead of DSPML top 100

4.Ideally it would be better to have a multicap fund like DSPML equity in the portfolio . Instead i have chosen a contra fund like magnum contra. DSPML equity can still be added but then it will affect the balance of the portfolio. Pls comment

Seniors, pls guide
thank you
-Ritul

10 Oct 2008 12:00

Dear 250778, In the article, SWP stand for systematic withdraw plan.

Under SWP, u first invest a lump sum in any MF scheme & at the time of joining the scheme, also fill the SWP form for withdraw of money on a predefined interval (every week, every month, 3 months or 6 months). the SWP may be in money terms say 10K Rs. or 20K Rs. or in Units terms, say 100 or 500 units redemption on every SWP interval.

I hope the above info `ll be useful to u.

Thanks

Ashal ...

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Asset Allocation by Profit Booking in MF

Posted by : 250778

Sir

What does SWP mean in the above article.?

Thanks

10 Oct 2008 10:53
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Dear Seniors/

I am having following portfolio of SIP MF

1. HDFC top 200
2 DSPML top 100
3 Reliance growth
4. Magnum Contra
5. HDFC prudence
6. Pru icici infrastructure

i am doing EQUAL amount SIP on multiple dates.

DSPML top 100 and magnum contra have replaced HDFC equity and Reliance vision( i stopped my sip in them after 2 yrs)

goal is to continue SIP for 3 more years .

following are my questions:

1. Should i chose a more aggressive large cap like sundaram select focus or K-30 instead of DSPML top 100 since i am already having a conservative large cap like HDFC top 200 in my portfolio

2 There is a strong temptation to chose Reliance regular savings equity fund instead of DSPML top 100 or another large cap. Reason being Reliance RSF has done better, as a fund it is still sitting on larger amounts of cash( so it can do better than others in coming period)

3 IF i chose reliance RSF i am afraid i will not have a large capo bias in my portfolio ( rel growth, Magnum contra, and Pru icici infr are not neccecarily large cap fund). Am i correct in assuming that i may not have a large cap bias by choosing relaince RSF instead of DSPML top 100

4.Ideally it would be better to have a multicap fund like DSPML equity in the portfolio . Instead i have chosen a contra fund like magnum contra. DSPML equity can still be added but then it will affect the balance of the portfolio. Pls comment

Seniors, pls guide
thank you
-Ritul...

09 Oct 2008 23:14

Sir

What does SWP mean in the above article.?

Thanks

...

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Asset Allocation by Profit Booking in MF

Posted by : pcspune

I recived a small Publication from SBI MUTUAL Funds last month.It is an EYE OPENER for Investors.

It contains SIP & SWP Returns of SBI CONTRA & other 2 Funds during 3 years.

If somebody Invested Rs.20 Lacs in SBI CONTRA Fund on 1st July,2005(3 years Ago), & Opted for SWP of Rs.25000 Per month(Recieved 9 Lacs in 3 Years),the Fund Value was over Rs. 31 Lacs on
1st July 2008(after 3 Years). It means his returns are 9 lacs + 11 Lacs = 20 Lacs.

Detail study shows that 20,00,000-25000
per month grew to 36 LACS in May,2006 &
then Declined to 29 LACS in June 2008.

FV again GREW to 37 Lacs in Feb.2007 & then Declined to 32 Lacs in April,2007.

This amount Again GREW to 55 Lacs in Jan.2008 & then Declined to 31 Lacs in July 2008.

Thus GAINS of 36 Lacs were WIPED off during 3 Market CRASHES.

If somebody had Implemented the Asset Allocation theory ( Rebalancing after Every 10% Growth in Equities), his Returns Could have been over 200% instead of just 100%.

Although TIMING the Market is IMOSSIBLE
but Profit Booking is NOT CRIME.
PROFIT BOOKING is Absolutely necessary in Long Term Investments also.

Some Fund HOUSES ( Reliance,JM, UTI, Kotak etc.)offer TRIGGER Facility
( Automatic Profit Booking when NAV Appreciates by certain Pre-Determined percentage ).Another Simple Method is Dividend Payout.

Intelligent Investors should learn from Mistakes & IMPROVE the Investment
SKILLS regularly instead of following the AGE OLD Theories ( mostly BORROWED from WEST) of so called Finsancial Advisors.

P.C.Sharma




























09 Oct 2008 21:32

dear ndpsr,
you wrongly directed me instead of ashal.

shakti...

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Posted by : ndpsr

ASHALJI,

HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING SELECTED AS THE BOARDER OF THE DAY. YOU DESERVE IT.

I AM SURE YOU WILL GET THIS HONOUR MORE AND MORE.

Regards

cheers

sunder (one of your million fans)

09 Oct 2008 19:23

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Posted by : jadhav

It seems there are no good A scripts as of now. Better to go for only 2-3 large cap oriented funds and rest in bank FD`s which are giving around 10 percentage return. I agree with PCSPUNE and his view are more likely to get accepted by rest of the boarders.

My choice will be

1 FI Bluchip Fund ( 3 Star VR Rating but more than 10 years of History)
2 Magnum Contra ( 5 Star from VR, From Midcap to Largecap Transformation)
3 Sundaram Select Focus Or Fidelity Equity
4 Reliance Growth or Kotak Opportunity or Sundarma Select Midcap

Give allocation around 25% each and wait for better times for Indian Stock Market.

09 Oct 2008 19:15

ASHALJI,

HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING SELECTED AS THE BOARDER OF THE DAY. YOU DESERVE IT.

I AM SURE YOU WILL GET THIS HONOUR MORE AND MORE.

Regards

cheers

sunder (one of your million fans)...

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Top 5 MFs to invest in Current Market

Posted by : sp.palo

dear ashal,
congrats for being the boarder of the day.

regards
shakti

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